- May 13, 2012
- Reaction score
- Fern Hill, Australia
- Printer Model
- Epson 3880. Canon Pro 9000,
Thanks for that link, adds to my data base and that is always handy.
Looking at your printer profiling may be a false start. Most reputable inkjet papers provide reasonable profiles for their papers using the main stream inksets. Certainly better than can be made with the average colormunki or Spyderprint, and good enough to move onto the real difficulties.The marketers really do SUCK folks in to bigger and better monitors, and the limitations of our printers and inks is too often NOT given proper priority..........
What this exercise HAS done is convince me that I MUST look at printer profiling again........Don't think I had it 100% clear in my own mind the relationship between the number of patches read to output and the practical effect of the software itself choosing the next nearest tone/colour.
If I am reading the Eizo link correctly there are colours that the printer will not print, I need to follow that further.......
If I go outside now with my super camera top shelf card and no anti aliasing filter, shoot a scene and process it PROPERLY, then print using EPSON 3880 and EPSON OEM ink ( or my Cone) and send each of you a print of same.........How are you going to know which colours are off or missing from the scene I am representing...and what happens if I HDR or use some other filter/ screen.
@TheHat does non of this if he sent us all a print would we be sending it back with comments like.........."sorry Hat you stuffed up you have 35 shades of green missing 30% of you blue has shifted to the right and your black is woeful!!! "...........I think not!
Great to have your words of wisdom again, must admit I have difficulty reading you as a smartass ever, that runs counter to my impression.Hi 3dogs
Your post sound so melancholy I feel for you!
Marketeers are charlatans and purveyors of false dreams. It has ever been thus.
Their function is to persuade you to loosen the purse strings and send your scarce after tax dollars in their direction. The nature of our free enterprise retail system is for their message to drown out the engineers and technicians. Choose your sources very carefully. (Says he who has followed the marketing hype down more rabbit holes than I care to admit - and wasted money on them)
Looking at your printer profiling may be a false start. Most reputable inkjet papers provide reasonable profiles for their papers using the main stream inksets. Certainly better than can be made with the average colormunki or Spyderprint, and good enough to move onto the real difficulties.
As for your comment about the printer not being able to print colours displayed on the Eizo, also remember your printer can print some colours that fall outside the gamut of the aRGB gamut and are not viewable on your Eizo. How do you propose to edit and process those colours?
Not sure what your last couple of paragraphs mean:
With a 16 bit colour managed workflow our final prints are controllable WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR OUTPUT DEVICES. Usually a monitor and RGB printer for us amateurs.
Is it possible that you need to review your expectations? Contrast ratio for your monitor probably around 850:1 Contrast ratio of glossy inkjet paper - maybe 160:1. Brightness of a LED display versus brightness of paper sheet - NO CONTEST. need I say more
What do you expect? It is all measurable and controllable!
Hate to say this, but marketing is, well, just marketing. Reality strikes after the money has been spent!
Sorry to sound such a smartass - just my style trying to be brief. Interesting thread. Will resist the temptation to say more.
Thanks for that, what is PC's REVISED colours, I bought my dye ink just over a year ago and there was a lot of chatter that I missed paying attention to......so it was probably important and I should have stayed in the loopMy latest effort for the Canon9000 II is attached below. It is for Precision Colours revised ink set and microporous Satin Pearl paper. To use re-name the .txt file name to .icm. It was produced using ArgyllCMS so there is no restriction on use.