OCP K3 Vivid Magenta ink review

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A view years ago I purchased my first pigment based photo printer, the famous Epson Pro 3800. Previously I did had good results with Canon photo printers, like my good old Canon i9950 with dye inks. The problem with dye inks that prints exposed to sun and open air tend to fade quite rapidly, especialy printed on microporous photo papers.

After I had my Epson Pro 3800, I was almost frantically searching for a refillable alternative for this fantastic printer and after tested some prototypes of refillable cartridges, I finally ended with the large Inkrepublic I-refill system.
My first refill ink was the K3 equivalent refill ink from Image Specialists, despite the rather good colour rendition it suffers from two things: almost total lack of gloss and a strong sepia tone in the ABW-mode. My second refill ink was the Inkrepublic IRK4-nano ink, which improves the glossiness significantly, but ABW-mode has a rather strange greenish tone. A second version of the IRK4-nano ink solved the problem with the greenish ABW-mode.

My last ink set I tested on my -now sold- Epson Pro 3800 was the OCP K3 ink set for the R2400 and most know the problems with the Magenta and Light Magenta inks: due to the used pigments, the hue was more a red than a bright magenta, causing a serious gamut drop in the bright reds, blues and purples. I solved this problem by having the magenta replaced with the Octopus T0343 equivalent magenta inks (for the Epson R2100/R2200). The most striking feature of the OCP K3 ink set is the fantastic gloss and the near perfect neutral ABW-mode (slighty warmer, but still very neutral)...except for the strange metamerism on some types of papers. Unfortunately the Octopus T0343 magenta is no longer available.

With the purchase of the Epson Pro 3880, I am now using Inkrepublic's fantastic IRK4-nano vivid magenta ink set. Good colour rendition, satisfactory gloss, very deep black and very neutral ABW-mode: the best I ever had seen, on pair with Original Epson K3 inks. I am hoping Inkrepublic will reformulate their inks to create an even better and more glossy ink for the Epson Pro 3880, because despite the satisfactory gloss, it is still not as good compared to Original Epson K3 Vivid ink. The gloss of the old OCP K3 ink was very good indeed, especially the blacks...but the problem was the magenta.

Thanks to member CLS, I contacted OCP who could provide me with their latest K3 Vivid Magenta compatible ink set for the Epson Pro 3880/R300 printer. Because I had to wait for the refillable cartridges to contain this new type of ink, I could only commence testing today. To purge the ink lines/print head from the previous Inkrepublic IRK4-nano Vivid Magenta ink, I had to execute 5 cleaning cycles to push out the old ink. To prevent the formation of air bubbles I use the following cleaning work flow: 2x normal cleaning from the printer driver + 30 minutes waiting + 2x normal cleaning from the printer driver + 30 mintues waiting + 1 last normal cleaning cycle. In between I did removed the paper towel ball in the maintenance tank, so it remains as clean as possible.

The specific smell of the OCP ink can be used as an indicator whether the printhead is properly primed with the new ink.

My first results of the ink is just fantastic. Finally OCP managed to get the proper pigment raw material to obtain a bright vivid magenta. No longer the old reddish version of the previous normal OCP K3 magenta. The glossiness is just as good as the previous version, but the important thing is that the gloss of the magenta's is now improved significantly as well. Also the strong metamerism on some type of papers seems to have been reduced. Because I am still testing the ink and will create profiles for my papers I will report back later with some pictures.

OCP K3 Vivid ink greatest advantage is the price: far cheaper compared to other contenders in the refill market combined with a more than satisfactory quality and glossiness. Because the reformulated magenta has increased gamut greatly, it is now possible to print the bright reds, blues and purples more accurately.
 

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WOW! Great report!
Can't wait for those inks to reach the USA. Rjettek does not have them yet.

Are you saying that they reformulated ALL the V K3 ink? Or only the VMs?

What I have been doing on my R2880 is using K3 OCP and OEM VM and VLM from 110ml carts from ebay!
I have enough accumulated OEM from large format carts but I am saving that for the 3800s

OCP inks are simply SOOO low cost, one would be crazy to choose anything else.
I wish they would also reformulate thier regular K3 Magenta.

Thanks!!!!

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OK, printed some pictures on some generic high gloss paper and Epson semigloss paper and the prints really look great. The OCP K3 Vivid magenta inks really prints with a nice gloss, but on some papers there is a strange bronzing to be seen. Especially Moab Satin 240 grams paper suffers from this strange behaviour. Epson semigloss paper does not seem to suffer too much from this bronzing.

Actually: even without profiles (let printer manage color) the color reproduction is execeptionally good. The best results are obtained on high glossy papers and pearl type papers (like Epson semigloss and Ilford pearl). Bronzing might be a problem with papers that are not glossy or pearly enough. I will try some prints on matte papers later on.
 

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I finished my tests on several types of paper. The gamut is similar to the Inkrepublic IRK4-nano Vivd Magenta and Epson K3 Vivid magenta ink, but tends to be stronger in the yellows, greens and blues. Inkrepublic IRK4-nano and Epson K3 Vivid magenta still has an extra edge in the purples and pinks. The reds and oranges are rendered exceptionally well with this OCP K3 Vivid ink and most importantly with much less gloss differential compared to Inkjetfly's IMA24/36 V3, Inkrepublic's IRK4-nano Vivid Magenta and Image Specialists K4 ink.

The only disadvantage of the ink is the bronzing on some type of papers, causing a metallic shine on some types of papers. Printed on high gloss and pearl type papers, this is negligible. However: the bronzing is considerably less compared to the older version of the OCP with the normal magenta and normal vivid magenta. Please have a look at the video below to see it yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Zz0nl_XlU&feature=youtu.be

ABW-mode is slightly warmer than the perfectly neutral ABW-mode of the IRK4-nano Vivid magenta ink set.
 

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As I said pharmacist the inks are just awesome :)

I did manage to buy an "Waste Ink Counter Full R1900 last week for 30 inkl. shipping :)
 
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Just watched your video and the results appear great! Very exiting!

So if I already have 1.5 pints of the older K3 non vivid inkset, do I only need tp purchase the Vivid Magentas or do I have to buy all the colors?

Or should I just add this OEM Vivid magentas along with the rest of the current K3 OCP colors.

OEM Vivid Magenta K3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Epson-T...6505?pt=US_Ink_Cartridges&hash=item232f702eb9
Which I already have.

OEM Vivid Light Magenta K3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310736313278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Which I already have.

If the other colors have been modified as well I guess I would have to get the complete set to keep it all OCP?

cls: Could you please post the OCP stock #s for the new ink set or a link?


Thanks

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BKP200 T0599 Light Grey R2400
BKP201 T0597 Light Black R2400
BKP202 T0591 Photo Black R2400
BKP203 T0598 Matte Black R2400
CP200 T0592 Cyan R2400
YP200 T0594 Yellow R2400
CPL201 T0595 Photo Cyan R2400
MP209 T0963 vivid magenta R2880
MPL210 T0966 vivid light magenta R2880
 
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Thanks a million CLS.

But do I have to order ALL the colors if I already have the rest of the K3 colors?

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No.. not really, why should you? But I would rather suggest picking up the "cheap" LightBlack and LightLightBlacks
I am Printing heavy on my R3000 and using ALOT of PBK LLBK LBK right followed Vivid Light Mangenta and Light Cyan
 

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Good idea! I don't think they differ to much from OEM LB and LLB. Like I said, I still have about 1.5 pints of all colors and lots of VM and VLM OEM. Somethinj like 400 ml of each.
What I've been doing to use a hybrid of OCP K3, supplemented by OEM VM and VLM.

I think that is probably the best I can do to get the OCP low cost K3 inks and supplement them with OEM Vivid Magentas.

But since the OCP V magentas have improved that much then I will likely buy a pint each when it reaches us here on the USA.

The price is simply too good to pass up.

Joe
 
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