Canon OEM cartridge capacity comparison

[The Hat]

Seeing as everyone going on facts here, well

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

 

[stratman]

d1hamby:
The alledged 13.6 ml capacity continues despite no proof in this thread.

Here are 4 links that use the number 13.6 for a CLI-8 cart (one also uses 13.8):

I will assume you are unaware the discussion concerned OEM Canon CLI-8 cartridges.

http://www.inkjetsoutlet.com/canon-cli-8.htm

This appears to be an aftermarket cartridge and therefore not applicable.

http://www.amazon.com/review/RSK1HVBK2FQIN

A comment from Amazon? A comment? Wow.

http://astore.amazon.com/webelements/detail/B002M78HVS

The same comment as above. Very dissappointing coming from you Grandad35.

http://www.spanishink.info/canon-cli8-magenta-compatible-cartridge-with-chip.html/

Another aftermarket cartridge.

Fotofreek was spot on with his comments. Who cares whether it is 13.6 or 13? It just isnt statistically significant.

Exact capacity was requested, not statistically insignificance. Your point is taken but it still is not pertinent to the question. Bad data is still bad data no matter how insignificant.

The cart bodies have relatively large, flat surfaces that form the sides, and the stresses induced during the injection molding process can easily cause variable warpage on these surfaces which can change the internal capacity by more than 0.6 ml. When refilling, the variability is even greater.

How do you think Canon fills cartridges? Eyeball? Weight? Or is it computer controlled injection of a fairly precise amount that varies much less than 0.6 ml? A 0.6ml variance is significant to Canon considering cost. Bleed 4.6% ink revenue out of millions of cartridges and the CEO isn't going to be happy.

This is akin to arguing about How many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

You either want good data or you don't. Sloppy is accepted or it's not. The question was how many ml's of OEM Canon ink is in their cartridge, which was to be supported by linked proof. No one has done that in this thread, but many perpetuate unsupported data blindly.

 

[d1hamby]

What it costs Canon for ink they could give you 13oz. just as long as it lasted the same amount of time and you had to buy their ink they wouldn't lose a dime.

 

[stratman]

Seeing as everyone going on facts here, well

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Ask again on Saint Patrick's Day and we'll provide some colorful answers from the pub.

 

[The Hat]

stratman..

Ask again on Saint Patrick's Day and we'll provide some colorful answers from the pub.

I would love to be there for the craic, but cant so post some of your answers later Ha Ha..

 

[stratman]

Canon had the volume of ink per cartridge on their website in the past. Can not find it today. It was buried somewhere within before and difficult to find. But here is a link for Canon Thailand which clearly states 13 ml for the CLI-8 cartridge - http://www.canon.co.th/section/ink_en/?lang=EN

Called Canon today and spoke with tech support who had internal documentation that CLI-8 cartridges are filled with 13 ml. He had no link or info he could send me as it was "internal."

The 13 ml fill volume is noted on a variety of retail websites. Interestingly, a volume of "0.44 oz" is now being used (compared to when only ml's were used when this thread appeared).

http://www.buy.com/prod/canon-cli-8...c-ink-cartridge-cyan/q/loc/101/201692677.html - 0.44 oz. Previously, Buy.com listed volume as 13 ml exclusively.

http://www.buyonlinenow.com/viewproduct.asp?sku=CNMCLI8M - 13 ml.

http://www.rapidsupplies.com/canoncli-8cinkcartridge13mlcyancnmcli8ccnmcli-8c.aspx - 13 ml.

http://www3.shopping.com/xPO-Canon-...s-Accessories-Printer-Supplies-Black-Ink-Tank - 13 ml.

http://www.greenlightoffice.com/off...nk-tank-pixma-pro9000-printer-inkjet-red.html - States both 13 ml AND 0.44 oz. Other CLI-8 colors listed as 0.44 oz only. (eg http://www.greenlightoffice.com/catalog/CNMCLI8M.aspx?ret=/search/keywordsearch.aspx?t=cli-8)

http://www.inkjetonline.com.au/product/canon-cli-8c-cyan-inkjet-cartridge-canon-cli-8c.html - 13 ml.

What began innocently enough has snowballed - go back and read the exchange of how events unfolded. Up until Smile claimed 13.6 ml, this forum had already examined the issue and accepted 13 ml as the volume in the OEM Canon CLI-8 cartridge. I was a surprised to see Smile's claim and asked him for proof, to which he gave a flip reply and continued to be evasive.

If Smile had followed his own guideline - "Post the exact link to a website or tech paper or page". - when asked then the people who felt compelled to pile on me for holding Smile to his own standards would not have happened. Note that Smile posted zero links to support his claim.

The two questions that should have occured but didn't:

1) What is the official volume of ink in an OEM CLI-8 Canon cartridge as can best be determined?

2) Why didn't Smile answer with proof?
- Lazy?
- Unable to find the info?
- Obstinate?
- Was wrong and trying to save face?

People here were more concerned with protecting feelings and advancing off topic theoretical statistical insignificance and potential manufacturing idiosyncracies rather than obtaining good data. It's one thing to hypothesize in a vacuum of knowledge, but it is another thing to not even search out appropriate data that is readily and easily available via Google.

This thread is a low for Nifty-Stuff, and is like the Anthropogenic Global Warming debacle - good intentions but developed on bad/made-up/hidden/unsupported data that is propagated despite dissent. Fortunately, this thread won't lead to bilking people out of trillions of dollars over an ideology, just unsupported (and incorrect) thinking.

All I wanted was appropriate, substantiated data on OEM Canon CLI-8 ink volume. Unfortunately no one else did. Sad.

 

[moderator]

This invective in this discussion is not in keeping with the forum's guidelines - THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED!!!