Refilling Canon with OEM ink

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I just found a HP printer with 4 ink tanks for bottled ink, C - M - Y and K,
"Deskjet 5820" , available nowhere around here.
But the ink set is available, C-M-Y named GT52 (the inks which we know and which is tested
and K named "GT51"
I'm not sure that it's dye or pigment based (like Canon's pigment "Text Black" beside the dye "Photo Black")
but I hope it's dye - it could be our missing ink for Canon 5 channel printers...

for example
https://www.hd-toner.de/Druckerpatronen/HP/DeskJet-GT-5820/Set-4x-Original-HP-Tinte-GT-52-X4E40AE-M0H565AE-M0H55AE-M0H54AE.html?gid=12995&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4fHkBRDcARIsACV58_F-bkCdnnhvPtd4fzULsOrt32R8oKQ2L5k4_UUAHw4E8VWoww2J9iIaAlu5EALw_wcB
 
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Knowing that this HP ink works relatively good and no photo black is available an idea came to my mind.

How about mixing C, M and Y to get the black?. To achieve a deeper black adding up a little Photo Black whether it is 3rd party or OEM. Also using an OEM Canon PBK cart is an option.
 

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mixing CMY to black just gives you a dirty dark brown or similar, but not a very useful black, that is not an option.
Just use a genuine Canon PBK cartridge, you are already saving on the CMY inks.
 

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HP is coming out with a new generation of ink tank printers - Smart Tank - in Western Europe oriented to office type applications, the printers are using CMY dye inks and a pigment black
https://www.druckerchannel.de/artikel.php?ID=4123&t=hp_smart_tank_plus_555_und_655
The inks of the previous printer generation GT...showed some good stability of the dye inks, I have the new inks - cyan and magenta - Series 31 - on order for a quick test
 

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I'm doing a quick fading test of these new HP inks series 31 for the new HP ink tank printers destined for the Western European market.
I'm just using the cyan and magenta inks for this test - there is not much difference yet after two weeks to the Epson 106 inks. These HP series 31 inks only come as CMY inks, a series 32 black ink is pigmented, not a dye ink, such a mix dye/pigment is pretty typical for 4 color printers. HP is using thermal printheads similar to Canon, so the question comes up whether these inks could be used in Canon printers for refill , @martin0reg did such test with the GT52 inks already.
 
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I'm running a simple fading test to compare the new HP series 31 daye inks against the Epson 106 inks, 3 weeks are now gone, and it is becoming apparent that the HP inks are slightly less stable than the Epson inks, the differences are not visible yet but clearly measurable now. I'm stopping this test here, I cannot compare to some similar HP inks - GT52 - for some other HP ink tank printer series and cannot confirm that these are identical.
HP is supplying very fade resistant inks with their new ink tank printer series - but only with CMY dye inks, the black ink is pigmented.
Espon and Canon are supplying less performing inks with their ink tank printers - the G-series inks are much weaker than the Chromalife inks , and the Epson Ecotank inks are much weaker as well than the Claria inks which all had been tested earlier.
I don't have Canon hardware available for a test whether the HP inks could be a permanent substitute for the G-Series inks, this may work out since Canon and HP are both using thermal printheads.
 
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