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Printer Use Turbo Simulator..... a New Product Category

Discussion in 'Everything Else InkJet Printer Related' started by mikling, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. Sep 9, 2016
    mikling

    mikling Printer Master Platinum Printer Member

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    Instead of resetting chips, I am thinking of the creation of an accelerated printer use device.
    This device will work in conjunction with ARC or so called COC chips which are supposed to reset themselves when empty.

    Background: the major incovenience of ARC chips is the domino effect of being empty as each becomes empty and needs refilling. This can be frustrating and time consuming.

    Solution: If we are able to force all these ARC chips into an empty condition at the same time, it has the same effect as a reset mechanism as provided by previous resetters. The reset algorithm would still remain on the ARC chips just that this device simulated accelerated use on each chip to the point they would be empty.

    Benefits: Less ink wasteage, more convenience and use of clear side aftermarket cartridges.

    Applicable to all brands that use aftermarket ARC chips.
     
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    Ink stained Fingers

    Ink stained Fingers Printer Master

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    the old SSC reset utility could do something similar as I remember, reading and writing and resetting some types of cartridge chips of printers about 15 years ago - at the beginning of the new millenium or even earlier. And Epson by then put more software effort into the chip programming to make the use use 3rd party cartridges more cumbersome and not easier
     
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    jtoolman

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    I think we need to talk. I have some ideas. Saturday eve?
    Joe
     
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    pharmacist Printer Master Platinum Printer Member

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    I sold my Epson R2000, just because of this terrible cascading empty, auto-reset, ink dumping etc process. I bought myself an Epson 1500W again, because, when 1 cartridge is almost empty I take out all the cartridges and reset the chips of all cartridges at once (and refill accordingly), so only one cleaning cycle and not several times in row, because of the cascading effect when 2 or 3 cartridges are near empty.
     
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    Ink stained Fingers

    Ink stained Fingers Printer Master

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    the more nozzles and nozzle rows you have on a printhead the more ink gets sucked down into the waste ink container, I'm not aware of any major printer model with a split cleaning unit - by color - or segments of colors.
    Only a few model types do this - Canon with the IP etc models with 5 colors and Brother as well , the width of the nozzle row for the text/pigment ink is wider than the rows for the dye colors, and you have an option in the driver to purge (pigment) black or colors - separately. This type of ink consumption wasted by cleaning cycles is barely tested and made public in any tests, and is pretty much a secret kept by the manufacturers. That's an advantage of the Epson ITS - integrated tank system L... or ET...Ecotank models with the built in CISS , you don't change cartridges and you don't have any of these exchange related cleaning cycles . You could have considered an L1800 instead of the 1500W if you don't really need the WLAN connection. The L1800 is the 1400 with an Epson CISS. Just to give an example - I'm running an R265 with a CISS and an external waste ink bottle. When I'm just printing black - text - internet - over a longer time, thousends of pages - the printer is creating more waste ink I ever could recycle and use up in the black channel for further printing , the waste ink is getting more and more. And I was measuring the ink consumption by weight with a milligram scale and the waste ink increase over lots of cartridge reset cycles - about 25-30% of the total ink consumed ended up in the waste ink bottle......most of that would be saved with a ET...or L800/1800 type CISS printer model.
     
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    akramjef

    akramjef Getting Fingers Dirty

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    I am using the waste ink to fill the black cartridges of Hp all in one printers in my office and at home to print and to copy text documents ( which are usually black and white). It gives very nice printing , so i didn't throw any black ink (what is called waste ink ).
     
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    I just reset all refillable cartridges on my Epson 1500W without a glitch, as LM, LC, PB are near empty, thus preventing the dreadful cascading priming cycle > ink lost > more cartridges registered as empty > again refilling > more priming > another cartridge registered as empty. I never was able to reset the Epson R2000 refillable cartridges at will to prevent this cascading ink priming/ink lost procedure.
     
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    Celso

    Celso Printing Apprentice

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    I am an apprentice and avid reader of this very nice forum. I usually do not post, but I read it on a daily basis.

    My comment is related to arc chip and it's cascade empty behavior that forces the printer to go with a large frequency into cleaning cycle.

    Isn't it the same behavior of using OEM carts or refiling OEM carts?

    This is because you cannot avoid the software of the printer that estimates the ink levels.

    My printers as canon MX 721, MP610 and MG7510.
     
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    When it comes to using ARC chips there are several types available, so the user usually has to find a good work around that suites the way they work.

    The best answer of course is to use OEM chips and reset, and that way you can avoid the Domino factor that the print manufactures have built into their software to waste your precious ink.

    If you have a look at the link below, it deals specifically with OEM ink users but it’s exactly the same for all users of inks, both in Canon and Epson.

    http://www.printerknowledge.com/thr...t-on-pro-9500-pro-10-for-oem-ink-users.11062/

    P.S. @Celso, glad you have joined us, and I hope you keep posting...
     
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    Actually yes, both OEM and refillables. The problem is the printer does not seem to able to purge only the ink channel which has been replaced with a new cartridge. I think it must be possible, but ink sale will drop significantly if your print head does only purge the channel of which the cartridge has been changed. Now this is the reason I went back to an Epson 1500W, for which there is a resetter capable of resetting refillables at will at anytime, so you can reduce the amount of ink waste significantly.
     
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