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Official PK Poll - Is there any future in refilling?

Discussion in 'Official PK Contests, Polls, Etc.' started by sumi, Apr 12, 2016.

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Is there any future in refilling?

  1. Yes

    74 vote(s)
    90.2%
  2. No

    8 vote(s)
    9.8%
  1. Apr 24, 2016
    palombian

    palombian Print Addict

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    The printers from the PGI-5/CLI-8 and BCI-3/6 generation are indeed sturdy (my workhorse is a MX7600 pigment with the same design).
    But for none of these printers you still can buy a new printhead, you have to search a replacement printer second hand.
    Since you may assume an older printhead (some are 10 yrs old) has only a part of the expectable life left, 1/3 of the price of a new printhead is IMO the maximum you can pay.
    Sadly enough prices are too high now (€75 for an IP5200R :eek:).

    Consider also these venerable machines have no wifi, and are not supported in Windows 10.
    All of my 525/526 do, the MG8250 even has cloud connection (also a CIS film scanner), and this generation still has a cassette and a rear tray (disappeared since 550/551).
    Indeed, the printhead glides along a piece of steel i.o. a solid round tube, but the print quality did not suffer IMO.
    The cartridges are small, but I seldom print large quantities in a row.

    So, since I have a stock of 525/526 printers (3 types even share the same printhead), cartridges, ink and resetter, it is not interesting for me to invest in older printers.
    I still may find a 525/526 bargain, but otherwise it is cheaper to buy a new printhead.

    Same for my PGI-9 pigment line (PRO9500's and MX7600).

    And since there are already ARC chips for the 570/571, why worry, there will always be a refillable printer.
     
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  2. May 5, 2016
    pixelphoto

    pixelphoto Printing Apprentice

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    I have always used Epson printers except for the first ever inkjet printer made by Hewlett Packard. As long as Epson continues to rip off the user with outrageous prices on ink cart replacement I will do everything I can to replace the ink with 3rd party products. I despise greed.
     
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  3. May 5, 2016
    videobruce

    videobruce Getting Fingers Dirty

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    I just got done searching eBay for a placement printhead for a iP4300 & a iP4500 and found numerous offerings. NEW in a Canon box! Unfortunately they are all from Asia (China & Hong Kong). The 4500 are 2x the cost of the 4300. ;)
     
  4. May 6, 2016
    The Hat

    The Hat Printer VIP Moderator

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    These new print heads may not be new at all, and tend to be refurbished so Caveat Emptor.. :eek:
     
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  5. May 12, 2016
    Ink stained Fingers

    Ink stained Fingers Printer Master

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    I'm just reading an email newsletter that farbenwerk.com has inks and new refill cartridges available for the Epson P800 printer so a major blockage for this model has been resolved.
     
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  6. May 13, 2016
    ThrillaMozilla

    ThrillaMozilla Printer Master

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    They could put the refillers out of business tomorrow if they would price ink reasonably. They're not going to do that. In the US, by law, they have to allow refilling.
     
  7. Jun 30, 2016
    shotupdave

    shotupdave Printing Apprentice

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    we may have to go to single use chips and not have the capacioty for resetting. but refilling still be around
     
  8. Jul 29, 2016
    PeterBJ

    PeterBJ Printer Master Platinum Printer Member

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    They are not officially supported in W10, but a driver for an older Windows version will most likely work if installed in compatibility mode for that Windows version. Here is a screen shot from my W10 laptop, showing a couple of PGI-5/CLI-8 Canon printers which were bought at thrift stores. The MP800 was installed using the W7 driver in compatibility mode. The printer is fully functional under W10. The MP500 was successfully installed under W10 using plug and play. The install did not start automatically as in older Windows versions, but took a couple of mouse clicks to start.

    Printers W10.jpg
     
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  9. Jul 29, 2016
    stratman

    stratman Printer VIP Platinum Printer Member

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    And yet my CLI-8 / PGI-5 MP830 driver file installed the usual way without any need for compatability settings or using Win 10's plug and play following the Win 10 upgrade from Win 8.1. :idunno:woot
     
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  10. Jul 29, 2016
    The Hat

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    PeterBJ said:
    They are not officially supported in W10

    Four of my older printers, Brother HL -1240, Canon i865, iX4000 and i9950 caused a lot of difficulty’s and refused to accept the Win 7 drivers with Win 8.1, but eventually by powering off the printers and USB before a reboot they gave in and installed correctly, a strange things dough my iP4500 which is as old as the rest, installed first time... :idunno
     

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