Need advise what to use to re-fill ink cart. for Canon Pro 9500 MarkII

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Thanks for the info on your ink, despite getting the amount wrong its still better value than Efillink.
There are still no useful bulk pigment ink traders in the EU yet, so I have to get my ink from the US.
What do you use to reset your Black and grey cartridge chips.. :|
 

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What do you use to reset your Black and grey cartridge chips.. :|
From what I've read, there isn't currently a solution for resetting the black and grey chips. I was under the impression that CLI-8 resetters worked fine on PGI-9 chips with the exception of those colors. I ordered one on eBay that does nothing to any of my chips. It sounds as if you have one already but for those who don't, I think the correct model number is the YXD-R58e. I found a supplier in China that was prepared to sell them to me at $5.50 each but with a minimum order of 20 units. Still a good deal if you can find just a few others to go in with you on it. So for now, I keep a digital scale next to the printer and check all the carts periodically. So far, it hasn't been too much of a nuisance. At least, I know how much ink to add.

Btw, I ordered the resetter from eBay in the US because it looked identical to the YXD-R58e and didn't require me to buy 20 units. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with it...
 

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I got my YXD-58e from Efillink when I purchased all my inks from them.
But I believe precisioncolors.com, octoink.co.uk and druckerchannel.de have some also.
You will need to be careful as most resetters do the PG-5 + CLI-8s as does mine, but not all do the PGI-9s.
The digital scales sound like a great idea so I might get one myself.
I think the chips that are on the black and grey cartridges are a new special type that are also fitted to the 526 cartridges..
 

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I got my YXD-58e from Efillink when I purchased all my inks from them.
But I believe precisioncolors.com, octoink.co.uk and druckerchannel.de have some also.
You will need to be careful as most resetters do the PG-5 + CLI-8s as does mine, but not all do the PGI-9s.
The digital scales sound like a great idea so I might get one myself.
I think the chips that are on the black and grey cartridges are a new special type that are also fitted to the 526 cartridges..
Thanks for the info. I may pick one up but, for now, the following routine is working for me.

Rather than re-filling the carts when they get low, I re-fill all ten at the same time. Some carts, especially MBK, use very little ink. I bring two plastic containers to my printer. The first contains ten syringes with needles. The second holds the digital scale. I agitate and then open all ten bottles. One by one, I place the carts on the scale and top-up the carts so that they all weigh approximately 31 grams. (I use the trickle-down method because the financial savings I achieve will be reinvested into the global economy for the greater good.) The key to injecting the inks onto the sponges without spilling a drop is to use both hands. When I tried one handed, I would make a mess when the ink spurted from the needle as I overcame the initial resistance of moving the plunger. Using one hand to hold the cylinder and the other to press the plunger gives me more control. Rotating the plunger slowly also helps prevent spurting. The actual filling takes very little time -- maybe 10-15 minutes if one goes about it carefully, including checking the cartridge slots for leakage. What is time-consuming is cleaning all the syringes and needles. I use laundry bleach diluted with water, followed by thorough water rinsing.
 

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Anyone can recommend a vendor in USA
InkMiser Mentioned earlier on another thread that he was using InkJetCarts for ink so you could give them a try or find one that is supplied with image specialists inks, like precisioncolors.com.
The two different blacks and grey are to give better halftones and highlights I believe. :)
Based upon posts in this forum, as of a few months ago, I found myself considering eFillInk which was selling an ink and replacement cartridge combination for $728. This sounded like a lot of money when I hadn't yet determined that refilling was even going to work for me. So I went with Inkjetcarts. I picked up ten bottles of ink for $140. Each bottle should be good for close to ten refills.

I'm only now getting around to profiling these inks with my papers. I can give you my own subjective reaction to them in a day or two.
Sorry for the late feedback. I've been working with the InkjetCarts re-fill inks for about two weeks. I've tried them out on the following papers:

(i) Canon Photo Paper Plus SG -- colors work with the canned profiles but there is significant bronzing;
(ii) Canon Fine Art Photo Rag -- no problems;
(iii) Hahnemhle Glossy Fine Art Baryta -- good colors but some bronzing;
(iv) Hahnemhle Matte Fine Art Smooth Photo Rag -- muddy colors slightly improved by my own profile. I think I was getting bad results with the Canon inks, anyway.
(v) Ilford Galerie Classic Pearl -- good colors, no bronzing
(vi) Innova Fibaprint White Gloss -- good colors but significant bronzing. I made a new profile based upon the Matte Photo Paper setting and the bronzing diminished.

The two papers that I have yet to try out are Hahnemhle Glossy Fine Art Pearl and Innova Fibaprint Warm Tone Gloss.

Overall, I'm very pleased with the colors and the fluidity (if that's the right term) of the inks. The inks work well with canned profiles. What I haven't liked, I've been able to fix with a custom profile. I've had no clogging or flooding of the print heads.

My major concern is with the gloss differential which can be almost garish. With Canon inks there was none. The good news is that the Hahnemhle protective spray seems to nearly eliminate the bronzing. You have to apply several coats.

HTH

Happy New Year to all.

IM
 

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I suggest a visit to Howard Electronics (http://www.howardelectronics.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html) for a set of squeeze bottles (2 or 4 oz.) and needles. I placed a plastic check valve between the needle and bottle preventing drips while handling. This combo is a pleasure to use, gives me short term storage of ink at the printer and longer term storage of my larger bulk bottles in the 'frig'.

Ross Hardie, Inkjetcarts, has been in the 'print' business for >30 yrs and is quite generous with his time and resources. If you purchased ink from him, they will prepare a profile for their ink and your paper choice, gratis!

I recently purchased a 3880 refillable ink&cart system from him for my recently purchased printer--will be installing as my OEM inks vanish. From Ross's and other posters comments I'm confident this system will perform admirably, but I still welcome new comments pro&con.

A very grateful Happy New Year to all. After 7 decades of pushing shutter buttons, reloading bulk film, inhaling hypo fumes, printing in the dark I now find my self miraculously printing in the light (color, no less) and reloading bulk ink not film! As an Engineer, I never had a jaded feeling toward this progress, each step was always invigorating!


Again, many New Years to all irv weiner
 

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Thank you for the great feedback on the different types of paper you used.
This printer has so many inns and outs on it,(I love it when it does the Hucklebuck) that it will take a while to get the best out of.
I think you will find that if you use semi gloss it might work better with that ink, a lot of guys on here swear by the Kirkland brand..
 

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irvweiner said:
I suggest a visit to Howard Electronics (http://www.howardelectronics.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html) for a set of squeeze bottles (2 or 4 oz.) and needles. I placed a plastic check valve between the needle and bottle preventing drips while handling. This combo is a pleasure to use, gives me short term storage of ink at the printer and longer term storage of my larger bulk bottles in the 'frig'.
That's a great improvement on my method -- thanks so much!
 

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Thank you for the great feedback on the different types of paper you used.
This printer has so many inns and outs on it,(I love it when it does the Hucklebuck) that it will take a while to get the best out of.
I think you will find that if you use semi gloss it might work better with that ink, a lot of guys on here swear by the Kirkland brand..
I know what you mean about the ins and outs. For example, I just ran off a large sepia print on the Innova White Gloss with almost no bronzing. I have the feeling that the printer likes to be used regularly. I've been curious about Kirkland. I haven't come across it in stores. Is it only sold at Costco?
 

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Other than bronzing issued, Ikrkland paper take ink very well . It's like drying out right after printed.
 
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