do we need to use weak solvent-based cleaning fluid when cleaning the print head of pro10?

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I read a sentence in the Canon pro-10 service manual: Use new oil-based ink. Does it mean that lucia pro ink is oil-based ink? If so, should the fluid we use to clean the print head also be a weak solvent cleaning fluid? Because it is the only one that can clean oil-based inks. Currently fluids like w5 are for dye inks. I recently got a pro10 and used water-based dye cleaner (brand: inkmate) and found that the cleaning effect is really not as good as on other print heads, and the effect of longer soaking time is also average, do we need to use weak solvent-based cleaning fluid when cleaning the print head of pro10?
 
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I read a sentence in the Canon pro-10 service manual: Use new oil-based ink. Does it mean that lucia pro ink is oil-based ink? If so, should the fluid we use to clean the print head also be a weak solvent cleaning fluid? Because it is the only one that can clean oil-based inks. Currently fluids like w5 are for dye inks. I recently got a pro10 and used water-based dye cleaner (brand: inkmate) and found that the cleaning effect is really not as good as on other print heads, and the effect of longer soaking time is also average, do we need to use weak solvent-based cleaning fluid when cleaning the print head of pro10?
The simple answer is no, water based cleaners like W5 or Fairy washing up liquid are more than capable of doing the job without harming the nozzles, anyway there shouldn’t be a need to externally clean the Pro 10 head, the printer does a much better job itself, if it ain’t broke…
 

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@jbhtjbht : where have you found a service manual for the Pro-10 ?. AFAIK it isn't available to the public and nobody, outside of Canon, has been able to get one.
I can't believe that a genuine Canon service manual says that the Pro10 uses oil based ink. The printer was released almost ten years ago and it's the first time that I read something like that.
Rest assured, as @The Hat said, all Canon inkjet printers use water based ink. Printers for solvent inks are a totally different beast.
 

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@jbhtjbht I wonder, do you mean a user manual or have you really found a service manual? I think the "new oil based ink" is a misunderstanding or a translation error. I have seen "oil based ink" confused with pigmented but waterbased ink in a post from the East.

Arthur5 was quicker than I to post very much the same questions.
 

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@jbhtjbht I wonder, do you mean a user manual or have you really found a service manual? I think the "new oil based ink" is a misunderstanding or a translation error. I have seen "oil based ink" confused with pigmented but waterbased ink in a post from the East.

Arthur5 was quicker than I to post very much the same questions.
It's a Chinese version, but it's really a repair manual with over 300 pages.
 

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The important information appears in the second line
 

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The important information appears in the second line
As My Mandarin is not up to scratch, can you translate it for us, or stick it into Google and post the results..
 

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As My Mandarin is not up to scratch, can you translate it for us, or stick it into Google and post the results..
New Features
Higher print quality and speed
New oil-based inks (PRO-10)
New oil-based inks in 10 colors, including chroma-optimized inks mounted on a sliding stand. Printer has achieved deeper black density in dark areas
Achieves higher color reproduction with uniform gloss levels consistent with PRO-1.
New dye-based inks (PRO-100)
New dye-based inks in 8 colors, including gray and light gray inks mounted on a sliding stand. The printer has achieved a larger color range as well as black and white
less variation in chroma.
New print head
While supporting the use of new inks, the new print head has increased printing speed.
Real-time control of inkjet volume based on changes in temperature (same as PRO-1)
By observing changes in temperature, the inkjet volume that maintains a constant ink concentration between the scanner and other devices is controlled in real time, and efficient print
quality remains consistent. (In the Mark II Pro 9000 and Mark II Pro 9500, the inkjet volume is controlled within a scanner and is not
controlled in the scanner and in other devices.)
RTC-controlled auto-purge (PRO-10) (same as PRO-1)
A built-in battery backup drives the RTC and controls the timing of automatic purging to improve print quality reliability.
Paper supply
Bi-directional paper feeding of the rear end tray and manual feed tray (same as PRO-1)
The front-end tray has been removed. Instead, the printer's rear manual feed tray supports 14" x 17" size paper and thick paper. Paper should be fed in the manual feed
tray and the center of the rear manual feed tray.
 

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I must admit it looks like you are right about the service manual. The QY8-xxx number is typical of Canon service manuals. Do you have a link for download? preferably to an English version but I am also inrterested in Chinese versions and will then try Google translate and other online translators to understand the manual.

I think many owners of the newer Canon printers would like to know which version of the service tool to use to reset the ink absorber counter and which procedure should be used to enter service mode.

It seems that some service manuals for newer Canon printers are on the web. Here is a preview of a commercial download for the Canon G1000 ink tank printer.

Regarding the oil based ink I think it is a translation error or misunderstanding. It is explained in this post by @thanhhuy123.
 
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I must admit it looks like you are right about the service manual. The QY8-xxx number is typical of Canon service manuals. Do you have a link for download? preferably to an English version but I am also inrterested in Chinese versions and will then try Google translate and other online translators to understand the manual.

I think many owners of the newer Canon printers would like to know which version of the service tool to use to reset the ink absorber counter and which procedure should be used to enter service mode.

It seems that some service manuals for newer Canon printers are on the web. Here is a preview of a commercial download for the Canon G1000 ink tank printer.

Regarding the oil based ink I think it is a translation error or misunderstanding. It is explained in this post by @thanhhuy123.
Thank you for your reply!But I'm sorry there is no download address for this material, I purchased it. I'm happy to help you if you need it, but am concerned about the legal risks of distributing this kind of internal information on the internet? The most important question is still: Is the lucia pro ink used in pro10 only water-based pigment ink.
 
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