Can Use ink for specefic Cartridge for another one??

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hello;
I ask about problem face me i found InkTec Canon CLi-521M Magenta Dye Bulk Ink can i use it on my cartridge CLi-8M Magenta??? what is the problem both cartridge use dye ink

also i found Ink-Mate CIM 006M Cyan Dye for BCI-6C can i use it on my cartridge CLi-8C Cyan??

and about Ink-Mate is it good quality ink or can harm my printer head??? it is korean and which is better inkTec or Ink-Mate? there is big defferance??

please i want your help

thanks alot
 

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Wow babelfish must be having a bad day, but generally yes the newer cli-521/221 ink is compatible with the older cli-8 cartridges. InkTec is a known good ink but as for Ink-Mate I have no idea.
 

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thanks for help
another question bulk dye ink for hp can be used for canon cartridge??
and what will happen if pigment ink used in dye compatible cartridge??

thanks
 

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It's tough to say that you can or can't use an HP ink formulation on Canon. Yes it can be done, and even universal inks like Stratitec BUT and this is an important but, you need to flush the old ink out completely and let the foam dry completely and then refill with your ink. Mixing different inks can have funny results because formulations are different and may be incompatible with each other and possibly cause a flow issue. I had that happen with canon oem carts when mixed with stratitec ink. Also after refilling carts you need to let them sit and soak up ink for at least a couple days to ensure the foam is properly saturated. Keep in mind that using universal or non canon specific refills will mean you need to profile your printer to get the correct colors to print again.

Absolutely do not mix pigment ink in a dye filled cartridge the two are incompatible and will cause a flow issue. If you wanna see how incompatible they are take a puddle of yellow dye ink and place a drop of pigment black in it, even with agitation it won't mix. That effect will cause a cartridge not to flow properly and on top of that pigment inks can clog up dye printheads.
 

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Hi Qwertydude,

If stratitec ink causes flow problems, this is something to watch out for: Hobbicolors UW-8 and Inktec can be used straight away without any flow problems. I am not sure if I would use stratitic ink, after the problems you mentioned. If you refill a cartridge, the ink flow should not be influenced and a good refill ink is completely miscible with the original OEM ink and there should be no ink flow impairment. I discover Inktec is very close with original Canon ink and can be used straight away without any custom printer profiles.
 

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The stratitec ink itself doesn't have a flow problem it just is a different consistency than canon oem ink, it is a "universal" ink after all. So it seems that a combination of canon oem ink, canon oem foam and mixing stratitec ink causes a slight flow issue. And the problem doesn't exist when I refill friend's canon tricolor printer carts. Mostly the problem occurs not at all and not under all circumstances. This is completely remedied by rinsing out the cartridge. I've used nearly 2 liters of the stuff spread out about 8 different printers between work and friends and have not had any problems once I rinsed out the oem cartridges. I've used it primarily because it is the least expensive of all inks available in bulk sizes and produces excellent results when profiled. I can't explain why it's incompatible, even the msds says it technically should be compatible, possibly it's just down to the concentration of dye vs surfactant but there's not enough info about the formulation to tell. But on a rare occasion I've has a small flow issue, as in I would get very slight banding when in fast print draft mode but that was the extent of it. Most people probably wouldn't notice but I print so much that I've experienced all sorts of little variables and quirks with the printers. I mean I was the first to post that the ip4600 doesn't do it's unnecssary "cleaning" cycles with ink monitoring disabled, which is why I like just disabling it vs getting arc chips. With me soon I'm switching to MIS ink for canons so this will be a non issue. But I may switch back next year if the price goes up on MIS ink, it's already expensive enough nearly 50% more than stratitec ink. At that substantial a savings I don't mind rinsing out.
 

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price Precision Colors. It is Image Specialist inks, the same as MIS is presumed to be, and much better priced. In addition, it is owned by a valuable contributor to this forum. He participated here for a very long time before starting his ink business, so I'm not reluctant to suggest buying from him.
 

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Although you can use dye inks made for one cartridge in a different type of cartridge, it won't damage anything, but you may get some color offsets in your printouts. For example, I have lot's of Inktec dye ink for the BCI-6 cartridges and I used them in CLI-8 cartridges and the colors were significantly off. The cyan was too light and the magenta was too dark. Even though I'm color blind, I could tell the difference. I bought more Inktec ink designed for the CLI-8 cartridges. I have no experience with the other cartridges you mention.
 

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ghwellsjr,

do you have any experience with the Inktec CLI-221/521 dye inks ? The next time I want to buy this ink, because it is strangely enough cheaper and is claimed to have a better fade resistance than the older ink, but are the colours way off when filled into the older CLI-8 cartridges, or is the colour cast acceptable ?
 

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No, I have no experience with the Inktec CLI-221 inks and I don't think I will be able to since the only supplier of Inktec in the USA that I know of does not sell that ink. They only sell compatible cartridges that are probably not made by Inktec.
 
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