Refilliing the CLI26 and PGI25 tanks

[easytimes]

Well, I went and did it. I bought one of those new IP4920 printers, and have learned how fast they run out of ink... they do warn you early, but it still isn't enough to induce me to buy those high priced OEM ink tanks.

Has anyone else gotten one of these... and if so, which of the dimples on top of the tanks do we use for filling? There are two round ones, and one triangular one. I bought a set of inks, so I have some to fill, but I don't want to ruin any of the tanks experimenting with the fill holes.

I just hope I don't regret not having my IP4200 fixed... since it seems to have dumped its power supply, if a totally dead printer is any indication. Since the new IP4920 is disc print enabled from the factory, I figured this was a reasonable buy for me. I'm reasonably sure I couldn't have the old dead printer fixed for the same money as the purchase price of the new printer... or should I say ink subscription. My resetter will most likely be here on Monday, and I plan to use the same inks as my IP8500, but the technique is all I need to learn, if anyone can help.
Thanks,

 

[The Hat]

Well, I went and did it. I bought one of those new IP4920 printers, and have learned how fast they run out of ink... they do warn you early, but it still isn't enough to induce me to buy those high priced OEM ink tanks.

Has anyone else gotten one of these... and if so, which of the dimples on top of the tanks do we use for filling? There are two round ones, and one triangular one. I bought a set of inks, so I have some to fill, but I don't want to ruin any of the tanks experimenting with the fill holes.

I just hope I don't regret not having my IP4200 fixed... since it seems to have dumped its power supply, if a totally dead printer is any indication. Since the new IP4920 is disc print enabled from the factory, I figured this was a reasonable buy for me. I'm reasonably sure I couldn't have the old dead printer fixed for the same money as the purchase price of the new printer... or should I say ink subscription. My resetter will most likely be here on Monday, and I plan to use the same inks as my IP8500, but the technique is all I need to learn, if anyone can help.
Thanks,

Yo Charles,
The cartridges on your new printer are not that easy to refill because therere opaque, it just makes life that much more difficult.
But if you could use some of your 4700 (220/221) spare cartridges, they will also work in your new printer in place of the 226 cartridges.

All youll have to do is swap the chip from one cartridge to the other (new to old) and thats it.
So long as you dont mix up the chips in the transfer everything will work exactly the same.

Here is a link to show you how to remove the chips easy..
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6360

 

[easytimes]

Yes Hat... per my usual, I located that post after I asked the question... forums depend on the asking the right question in the search box. I fumbled my first few questions, then hit paydirt, after my post.

I don't use the German method... I pop the retaining ball and fill from above, then hot glue the access hole. The triangular hole puzzled me, and since I hadn't done a dissection of a new tank, I had no idea about the meaning of the apparent double access, or whatever that is. Since the 220-221 tanks are a tried and true process... I'll probably swap chips.

I tried the chip removal, just to see how it would go... not bad, and it seems to be a relatively solid installation without gluing... but I don't know if I will trust that. I have some leftover boat/automotive sealants that should easily do that job, without compromising the chip or tank. No matter what happens, I still need that chip resetter to effect this little ink-tank subterfuge. The post man is always the hold up these days.

I'm thinking that the IP4920 tanks hold even less ink than the IP4700 tanks, even if they are the same physical dimensions. They really dumped their load in a hurry. I suppose it could be the way the IP4920 does its work... but I'm already through all of the CLI tanks twice... only the PGI tank is still hanging on with a replacement in the wings. I knew I was going to refill, so I bought a set of inks when I bought the printer, just to be sure I would have the tanks to refill. With this chip swap method, I can also get another set of inks to use, since Sam's Club has the setup for the IP4700.

I'll tell you, truthfully... this site makes one part of using a computer so much more affordable. As messy as it can get, I actually look forward to my refilling days. Sort of a guilty pleasure.

 

[The Hat]

easytimes
I'll tell you, truthfully... this site makes one part of using a computer so much more affordable.
As messy as it can get, I actually look forward to my refilling days. Sort of a guilty pleasure.

Just keep up your messy refilling Charles and continue to enjoy it.. Coloured hair and hands are getting very fashionable now.
Good Luck..

 

[easytimes]

Oh yeah... the chip swap is really neat... and works so well. I finally got my resetter and swapped the chips on one refilled CLI 221 tank, and two new CLI 221 tanks and a new PGI 220 piggy tank. I had a difficult time on the first very carefully performed plastic rivet slice, but practice it has become very easy to do, now.

I still have a feeling that the CLI225 and PGI226 tanks contain less ink than their clearer cousins. I have never had the tanks run out as fast on the IP4700 as the opaques did on the IP4920... and if that's true, it serves two purposes to swap chips and refill the 221/220 duo... maybe more. But overall, I like never having to pay $1,000-$1500 on my yearly ink bill again. If the printers go bad in one year, because of refilling, the savings pay for a new one... you just can't beat that. But so far losing printers to ink refilling hasn't been my experience. I just like thinking about that financial perspective of this.
Thanks to all who struggle against the ink ogres.

 

[inkoholic]

Oh yeah... the chip swap is really neat... and works so well. I finally got my resetter and swapped the chips on one refilled CLI 221 tank, and two new CLI 221 tanks and a new PGI 220 piggy tank. I had a difficult time on the first very carefully performed plastic rivet slice, but practice it has become very easy to do, now.

I still have a feeling that the CLI225 and PGI226 tanks contain less ink than their clearer cousins. I have never had the tanks run out as fast on the IP4700 as the opaques did on the IP4920... and if that's true, it serves two purposes to swap chips and refill the 221/220 duo... maybe more. But overall, I like never having to pay $1,000-$1500 on my yearly ink bill again. If the printers go bad in one year, because of refilling, the savings pay for a new one... you just can't beat that. But so far losing printers to ink refilling hasn't been my experience. I just like thinking about that financial perspective of this.
Thanks to all who struggle against the ink ogres.

What type of refill ink are you using?

 

[oroblec]

i can do that wit the cartridgeof my canon ip4500 ?

 

[oroblec]

inkoholic i bet they use good quality ink like hobbi as must of the canon nowadays use same ink with diference name but all of them are 5 colors like those model canon ip4500, canon ip4700 and canon ip4920 just they are everytime smaller with opace tank so will be harder to refill the ink with your method.

i prefer method german method i been using that since 3 years with no problem i think to get that printer canon ip4920 just i was thinking iof i can get empty CLI-226 cartridges that come with chip clean so i can refill them and chipresseter so i can use ink monitor.

by the way who talk me about of canon ip4500 will ofense me after lost 3 of them died with no reason just never want to turn on back again and the power supple and all is great.

 

[easytimes]

What type of refill ink are you using?

Sorry for the absence, I've been up to my ears on other issues. I use Image Specialist inks from PrecisionColors. I've never purchased any others, and these are doing pretty well so far... so I'm stickin' for now. Just for my own use, I would stick with the recommendations you see on this forum. The information I have gotten here has been golden.

As far as monitoring, the swapped 221 and 220 tanks I've been using have monitored okay... and I can see the ink inside. The new 225 and 226 tanks leave me wondering where to poke the hole (NOT-German method). I would think the German method would require being able to see the needle insertion, but since I don't use that method, it's a moot point for me. If the tank configuration of the original IP4920 tanks is the same as the earlier versions, I could use those, as well, but it would require a bit more spillage. With the common tanks, and the chip swap, I get all the best of the transparent tanks, and none of the downside of the opaque tanks.

As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts on this thread, it also appears that the 225/226 tanks seem not to have as much ink as the 220/221 versions. I suppose I will have to cut open one of the old IP4920 tanks to know for sure, but after running two sets of tanks through the IP4920, they seemed to empty faster than my IP4700, and the older printer is used much more than the newer one. Just my perceptions.

 

[oroblec]

Well easytimes we all understand ur point everyone saying it run out so fast that any kind of printer evean with the same size but if u get clean catridges u can use any kind of method for refill if i can get good cartridges clean ones i will use the german method i never had problem with and sure i need to check the needle that is in the deposit to refill it but i'm been using a lot of method but after german one i just used that and before buying a new printer i need to make sure that i can use that method, good quality ink in bottles and a chip resset sometimes cause everytime i will print i check my ink cartridges so i make sure they won't run empty but the problem is this can we get good cartridges Empty Clean for the canon ip4920 and how strong is this print it died as most of the canon printers nowadays because last ip4500 died sundley with no reason.