Pro-10 blend Precision Colors and OEM

mikling

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I have been away from this forum for a few months, the summer actually.

Let me first state 1. Is there NO specific NEED to flush the inks when transitioning from the OEM to my Precision Colors ink. Emphatically NO at this especially at this juncture, November 2015. Over the summer I was able to tweak my older Pro-10 inkset to correct some imbalances to the Luminance and get closer to the OEM magentas. So at this point, a DEFINITE NO. You can even use the OEM iccs as well especially if you are not running a properly calibrated and profiled monitor. If you ARE running properly profiled monitor, then you will likely know how to use the provided ICCs I provide on my website to "dial" in the color.

Second, My Pro-10 inks are not the same as the other companies. It is unique to me and displays excellent gloss as well as no issues with ADHESION going back from the start. Furthermore there are NO clogging issues whatsoever. No issues on rinsing the pad etc. which I find hard to believe is even necessary today.

I have always stated that the drip or dribble method is the BEST because when used to refill it BACKFLUSHES the ink pad EACH time it is refilled and automatically brings the outlet pad to like NEW condition. I will point out here that sediment is an issue and will always be with even with Canon OEM inks to some degree. Hence why Canon have done TWO things..provided the mixing blade inside the cartridges as well as the routine to SHAKE the cartridges within the driver. I must stress also that one should use these and not feel it is not necessary. If you are color conscious with a tweaked up monitor, these shakers DO make a difference. I can tell you because I was getting issues with consistent shades during my redo of the newer formulations. The not frequent use of the shaking cost me nearly a month of work. No Kidding. YES, to me color is important and precise color and consistency is important. So forget about pad issues when using my inks and preferred methods. Especially when using the dribble method stream method of refilling. It is the ONLY proper and reliable way addressing the very issues that Canon knows exist on their desktop pigment ink cartridges.

Next, my inks are not from Germany or Europe. There are some colors which are from IS/STS but others are from another USA maker of fine inks that I have aligned with.

I would also like to inform previous users of the Pro9500 inks that at the same time of development of the revised Pro-10, I also took the time to VASTLY improve the Pro9500 inks that was from Image Specialists. It was good in its time BUT time has moved on and I wanted to update the Pro9500 as I was sick of hearing issues about the inkset. GONE and banished are adherence issues with darker colors. Metamerism..also banished. Vastly improved gloss now and the best news is that EVEN WITHOUT ICCs you can now use my newer inkset and obtain neutral prints. You can also get beautiful B&W without using ICCs and just use the Grayscale printing. I heard from uses about adherence and years ago Rodbam experienced flow issues. I found out what the problems were and these are now HISTORY with my new inkset. Here's a tip...except for the Chroma Optimizer, the 9500 prints are near indistinguishable from the Pro-10. Hang onto those 9500s.

At the same time, I now have ICCs when the PK cartridges are loaded with the MK inks to obtain superior Dmax when using Matte Paper settings. All ICCs are free for download and don't even trying to better those profiles with a standard Munki as those need to left in the drawer (Cage) now.

Yes...folks I have been busy this summer and these are some of the fruits of my work.

Wait till Epson users see the results from my Epson pigment inks which I now am profiling. If you want prints that match OEM Gloss and Color.......watch for my PCK3HD inks with my provided profiles. I'll make a video where you can see and check out the gloss AND color. I have selected the strongest inks from 4 mfrs and put an all star team together. With the various combinations, this is a lot of work. This inkset is excellent for the EPSON HD series as the errors play into how Epson now prints with their HD printers over the older Vivid K3. With the Surecolor SC-P600, users can use OEM profiles and they will match their screen to print with uncalibrated monitors.

Refilling today is altogether at a level much higher than even 5 years ago.

At this point, 2015 has been a busy year for me. I have made a wholesale changes for each of my inksets and did not stop until each was either at the top or possibly tied there. I'm now seeing light at the end of the tunnel.
 

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...I also took the time to VASTLY improve the Pro9500 inks... Hang onto those 9500s ...

Thanks for this.

I am very satisfied with the PRO9500 (MkII, the old one drinks ink) and the Precision Colors inks. Must still have old PGI-R stock, it's the only color that really lacks gloss.
Hope to be able to print on glossy paper with pigment inks, although I have a large stock of Ilford Smooth Pearl, until now the most satisfactory paper.

The rumors around the sale of Image Specialist (and signals from your side not shipping overseas anymore) did me search for other suppliers.
What a waste of time, ink - and even printheads !

Thanks again and a lot of success with your business.
 

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Thank you palombian

I do ship overseas but on large value orders, I require that the user pay a surcharge for shipment with tracking.

Oh, I also did not mention that on the update to the IS9500 inkset not all inks were changed out. Many of the older inks which provided good performance were retained in a bid to minimize the required changes. That way only the essential and really necessary changes were made. So changes were made to the GY, M, PM, C and R. Half of the inkset remains as before. I will retain stock of the older legacy colors for a bit to allow users to balance out the use of their inks so that minimal ink is wasted. However, in the future, I see a sunset to certain older IS colors as the newer repalcement colors ( GY, M, PM, C and R) are ALL for the positive...this pertains only to the 9500 and 9500MKII.

Here's more details:
http://www.precisioncolors.com/C10A.html
 

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Thank you palombian

I do ship overseas but on large value orders, I require that the user pay a surcharge for shipment with tracking.

Oh, I also did not mention that on the update to the IS9500 inkset not all inks were changed out. Many of the older inks which provided good performance were retained in a bid to minimize the required changes. That way only the essential and really necessary changes were made. So changes were made to the GY, M, PM, C and R. Half of the inkset remains as before. I will retain stock of the older legacy colors for a bit to allow users to balance out the use of their inks so that minimal ink is wasted. However, in the future, I see a sunset to certain older IS colors as the newer repalcement colors ( GY, M, PM, C and R) are ALL for the positive...this pertains only to the 9500 and 9500MKII.

Here's more details:
http://www.precisioncolors.com/C10A.html


Thanks mikling, we learn every day.

I look forward to the new colors, particularly Red.
As for the Magenta, there were indeed issues with flow. I never have been able to find the reason.
It was very prominent in the MX7600/IX7000 (where I use now Prodinks), but nearly invisible in the PRO9500MKII (when printing in High quality).
But it was also cartridge related, I have cartridges who also fail in the 9500 along with others who are good.
I am not certain it is bacterial, certainly not from the bottle. Also flushing/disinfecting could not heal a bad cartridge (only throwing away).
Glad my old stock is nearly finished.
 

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I can confirm the new Red for the PRO9500s (PC9-R) has now a gloss equal to other colors.

As said by mikling: Hang onto those 9500s !

PS:
After some more tests it is clear the red is better absorbed by glossy papers, although it depends on the quality.
I admit I try to find papers on the cheap, it doesn't make sense to buy 3th party ink and pay €2 for a sheet of paper.

The new red ink can't be wiped off anymore from the Aldi 300g glossy paper (except a more visible paper structure close to Canon Pro Platinum, sad they don't sell it in A3).
Anyway, there are other pigment colors (also from other brands) who do not fix well on some papers, I have cheap "Everyday Soft Gloss" that is only useable with dye.
Of coarse there are still gloss differences with the non-printed (white) parts, but it is feasible. It is much more visible in artificial light than by daylight.

That's why I still prefer paper with a pearl surface for pigment inks. The old Ilford Smooth Pearl is the best I have.
 
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