MX870 & my refilling plan...

[Rickkins]

Hi guys...

Ok, so after lurking and reading for a bit, I have come to this plan;

This ink...
These refillable carts
Any thoughts..??

 

[Rickkins]

~sigh~....guess you guys have had some issues with spammers, system won't let me post links to what I am talking about.

So, I will paste the product descriptions....

Ink = 6oz Inkset with Image Specialists Inks for Canon iP4600, MX860, MP620

1x 2oz Special Black Pigmented Ink for PGI-220Bk

4 x 1oz Dyebase inks for CLI-221 From precision colours, which turns out to be Canadian, which works for me.

Carts = Non OEM refillable Cartridges

Compatible refillable cartridges

for Canon printers

MP620, MX860, IP4600,IP4680 IP3600 IP4700 MP630 MP640 MP638

the latest ARC "Auto Reset Chips" compatible with all the printer whenever it made most refillable cartridge

you can refill this cartridge over and over again.

Note that both are for mx860, but from what I can gather 860 and 870 are pretty much the same.

 

[ghwellsjr]

I would use only Canon OEM cartridges and get a resetter. You should be able to get by with just the one set of cartridge that came with your printer, especially if you refill with the German method.

 

[Rickkins]

I would use only Canon OEM cartridges and get a resetter. You should be able to get by with just the one set of cartridge that came with your printer, especially if you refill with the German method.

Considered that, but decided that getting carts designed to be refilled would be easier. The guy selling them on ebay has 100% positive feedback.
Do these arc chips not work as advertised..?

 

[The Hat]

Rickkins


I would follow ghwellsjr good advice and only using OEM cartridges in your printer.
Compatible cartridges are easier but not necessarily cheaper in the long term.
If you get compatibles you will quickly switch back to OEMs because of reliability problems.
Once you get into refilling and resetting the OEMs you wont look back believe me?..

 

[Rickkins]

What would be the specific pro's and con's of each..??

Thanks.

 

[The Hat]

Rickkins

In a nutshell the OEMs are a hundred times more relliable and better than any compatible cartridge.
Pros = 100%, Cons = 0%
Compatibles cartridges are usually not able to maintain a good quality ink flow at all times
and are known to take a leak when least expected in other words a tad unreliable.
Pros = 50%, Cons = take your pick..

 

[stratman]

Aftermarket cartridges have an increased risk of leaking and ink starvation. The consensus of the forum, of multiple users of various aftermarket cartridges, is that aftermarket cartridges do not matche the performance and durability characteristics of the OEM Canon cartridge. A burned out print head or a puddle of ink in the printer are not worth the pre-drilled and stoppered ease of a ready-to-refill cartridge.

ARC chips are generally a poor choice if a resetter is available. Every time the printer is powered on the ARC chips reset ink levels back to full which means ink level monitoring would be unhelpful - you'll probably have to eyeball the ink levels in the cartridges to make sure they don't run dry. Also, the printer will do a new cartridge maintenance cycle at every power up which eats a lot of ink, fills the ink waste pad sooner and causes an otherwise premature ink waste pad full error.

There is discussion about Canon printers doing more maintenance cycles if one has ever overridden ink level monitoring for a cartridge. ARC chips may prevent that scenario by always identifying a cartridge as full. Also, if ARC chips do not interfere with ink level monitoring after the printer is on and told the cartridges are full, then if you keep the printer ALWAYS on, maybe then there will be meaningful ink level monitoring. I am not sure about this, so maybe someone else can speak to this issue.

Regardless, in most situations a resetter is preferable.

 

[Rickkins]

Hmmm... looks like I'll give the nod to the oem's/german method.

About the ink... precision colours about the best..??

 

[RMM]

Precision Colors is an excellent choice.

I would probably order more ink however unless you're not sure if you really want to refill or not.