Is there a consensus on refilling PGI-9 carts for the Pro9500 MK II?

[InkMiser]

@ The Hat & siusienen

Do the PGI-9 carts require a vacuum seal? From what I've read, it's a matter of getting the right amount of ink into the cart without air bubbles. After a bout of googling, I've come up with a catalog of valves, tubing and syringes that remind me uncomfortably of a hospital stay. By and large, they apply to Epson carts and not Canon. I also found a valve plug for Epson carts that looks very handy if it can be used with the PGI-9 carts. It would entail a one-time modification for each cart. Siusiuenen, is this what you have in mind?

Out of curiosity, why does the hole have to be drilled at the bottom of the cart as opposed to the top, as I did with my BCI-6's? I'm sure there's a sound reason but if one could do it from the top, fitting the carts to the print head, post-modification, would be less of a concern. And of course, one could refill the carts on the fly.

Fyi, I found the precise model number for the resetter recommended by The Hat in China. But they want me to order 20 pieces at $5.50 each (not bad, really). Instead, I've ordered something on e-Bay that looks identical, works on CLI-8 carts and has almost the same model number for $20. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I've also ordered a complete set of inks from inkjetcarts. Of my ten carts, several are new so it may be a while before I'm able to profile with the third party inks. Is it important to flush out the carts before injecting the new ink, or is that just a counsel of perfection? I count myself ahead if I can avoid mixing up the carts...

Thanks everyone for the good advice. I'm excited by this project.

 

[siusiuenen]

I think The Hat already exam inside the cart. and the hole's position is to avoid to damage the plastic bag inside of the cart.
Yes, the valve plug from rjettek is what i have .
For now, i have one extra cart. and ready to try with the valve plug but i need to measure the hole's size for it when i'm back to work . I'll let you know if it work out or not.
I did not flush the cart myself, just fill when it empty and yes, the colors going to mess up but it not important for me and just me .

 

[The Hat]

siusiuenen wrote:- the hole's position is to avoid to damage the plastic bag inside of the cart.

The Valve plugs sounds like a good idea if you can get it to fit all right.
The position of the hole however is critical, one to avoid damage to the internal bag and the other is space, its a tight fit to get the cartridge back into the print head cradle with something protruding from it.
Theres no need to flush the cartridges as there is nothing inside to flush out.
Filling the PGI-9 cartridge from the top is not an option, I had (100%) failure rate with top fill and lost several of my OEM cartridges experimenting, and I dont recommend using anything other than OEMs in this printer.
The CLI-8 and the PGI-9 cartridges are a world apart in design, the only thing inside the PGI-9s are a bag and counter weights to agitate and pressurise the cartridge, there are no air holes in the cartridge it is completely sealed except for the ink outlet.
The drill hole depth only needs to be deep enough to penetrate the cartridge any deeper and you will risk hitting the inner bag, then its game over for that cartridge.
Once the initial hole is in those cartridges refilling couldnt be simpler.

 

[siusiuenen]

@ The Hat:
I measured the Valve Plug today and seem to be there're no room for it. The diameter need for Valve plug is about 4mm but i saw your recommended is 2mm. Could you comfirm?
Otherwise it should be ok for the deep ( 4mm) or the space out side of the cart.

 

[The Hat]

siusiuenen

The diameter of the hole is not that important its the depth that is critical,
Your plug idea might work very well and hopefully then well have made another step forward.
Then all we need is for someone to crack the code for the two remaining chip cartridges.
Please keep us posted on your progress.
See the pic for position..

 

[siusiuenen]

Wow, thanks very much The Hat . Look like i have some hope . I'll report how it go.

 

[poi123]

Hi everyone,
Just found this forum, and is wondering about which replacement pigment ink (i.e. the "brand）works the best for Canon Pixma 9500 Mark II. Anyone here had used any brand with quality (e.g. Inkjetcarts.us) and would like to recommend please, and to share their experience with that pigment ink please? I'd tried both dye & pigment from China's manufacturer that working worst at best - color shift, fade quickly within 1-2 days with dye; while low saturated color, ink can't fully passed through print heads causing bad test print patterns with pigment inks and etc problem... Emm, yes, I gonna fill the ink using original cartridge with re-setter chips. There's no working CISS for this model, the one published on internet / alibaba is a failed product.

 

[The Hat]

poi123
The pro 9500 printer doesnt work with a CISS so I would recommend steering clear of any seller that says any different.
The best ink for the pro 9500 is Image Specialists pigment inks, and best of all its manufactured in the US..

 

[poi123]

poi123
The pro 9500 printer doesnt work with a CISS so I would recommend steering clear of any seller that says any different.
The best ink for the pro 9500 is Image Specialists pigment inks, and best of all its manufactured in the US..

Agree. No CISS working perfectly for 9500 Mark II recently... But those chip re-setters do reset all 10 cartridges successfully (always 100% full) to be fair for China's manufacturer. You can simply plug-n-play those chips at your wish.

Back to the topic, how would you rate/comment for the pigment inks between Inkjetcarts.us and Image Specialists, emm in terms of quality / price, according to your experiences using or knowledge about them? Urging to know this before I would try one of them very soon... Thanks in advance The Hat.

 

[poi123]

I did a search on Image Specialists website, and found out that only 8 pigment colours out of 10 were available for 9500 mark II. Just wondering where I could get the remaining "PG - Photo Grey" and "PM - Photo Magenta". Any advice on this The Hat?