ghosting problem when printing on glossy photo papers epson r1800

wildboys

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I ordered a bigfoot Cis for the epson r1800.
When I print on glossy photo papers Epson premium glossy
ilford smooth gloss,red river gloss etc.All of the picture have a ghosting
effect when printed.It does not do this on any of my satin or luster papers.
I am using custom profiles for the papers.It only does it on glossy papers.
When I use epson oem cartridges I do not have ghosting on glossy papers.
 

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It's probably an ink compatibility issue. The ink probably has an incompatible viscosity. Viscosity plays a role in the timing of ink droplet between leaving the nozzle and dropping on the paper. Large and small droplets do not share the same timing. Since the print head is flying back and forth at a very high speed the printer driver has to counter the timing precisely. But if the ink has a different viscosity causing the timing to be different it may produce gohst as you saw on your print. The viscosity not only affects ink dropping timing it also affects how the ink droplet drops on the paper. Ideally the ink droplet should be round and makes a perfect round dot on the paper. But if the viscosity is not matched with OEM ink the ink drop may not be as good as OEM. Most CIS systems in the market are made in China. Usually ink will be a part of such CIS system. The ink supplied is probably dye based ink, not pigment based ink. R1800 is designed to use pigment based ink. If dye based ink is used you may want lower your expectation of print quality.
 

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nche11 said:
It's probably an ink compatibility issue. The ink probably has an incompatible viscosity. Viscosity plays a role in the timing of ink droplet between leaving the nozzle and dropping on the paper. Large and small droplets do not share the same timing. Since the print head is flying back and forth at a very high speed the printer driver has to counter the timing precisely. But if the ink has a different viscosity causing the timing to be different it may produce gohst as you saw on your print. The viscosity not only affects ink dropping timing it also affects how the ink droplet drops on the paper. Ideally the ink droplet should be round and makes a perfect round dot on the paper. But if the viscosity is not matched with OEM ink the ink drop may not be as good as OEM. Most CIS systems in the market are made in China. Usually ink will be a part of such CIS system. The ink supplied is probably dye based ink, not pigment based ink. R1800 is designed to use pigment based ink. If dye based ink is used you may want lower your expectation of print quality.
The ink I am using is from Image Specialists.It is pigment ink.The ghosting only happens on glossy papers
it does not happen on satin based paper.I think several people on the forum use CIS system with glossy papers.
I have a canon I9900 which is a dye based printer and I do not have ghosting with non oem cartridges on glossy papers.
The ink I am using on the Epson r1800 is made in the USA.I have an epson r300 also and it does not have ghosting with
non oem cartridges on glossy papers only the Epson R1800 has this problem.
 

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Pigment inks (especially black and cyan) are prone to bronzing on glossy paper (matte paper isnt a problem with pigment inks). Dye inks (used by your r300) don't have this problem on glossy paper and don't require a gloss optimizer to eliminate the bronzing. The r1800 uses UltraChrome inks that have a coating that acts as a gloss optimizer - I suspect that this feature is patented and that your bulk ink doesn't have a gloss optimizer.
 
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