Epson Color Density percentage?

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As to the PPD paper above, I knew soon as I saw the first test sheet that came out of printer, of the four that the i1 software makes, there was a big problem. The gloss ws almsot absent from some of the colors of ink and the blacks. Seemed more like a matte ink on a glossy paper. Now I know why it was an Amazon Prime Days sale.

The instructions said with Epson printers to set the color to Vivid. Don't see that in the Epson properties and I doubt if it would help it any. Paper surface and ink differential is really bad so I ordered some Canon Platinum Pro instead and will use this PPS paper for tests as it doesn't appear to play nice with the Cone inks.

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Does this PPD paper have a paperlike backside ? I have seen it over time that such cast coated papers don't look very good with pigment inks, it still may be o.k. with dye inks to a degree.
Photo paper sellers on Amazon or Ebay typically do not specify the paper type - cc cast coated or PE/RC - PE film / resin coated .You find cc papers typically more in the lower performance range - gamut size - black level and as well in the lower pricing range - but there is an overlap to the PE papers. You need to test every ink/paper combination for the look - gloss etc and the gamut or black level , that's the only way that you find combinations which fit four expectations considering price and performance
 

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Does this PPD paper have a paperlike backside ? I have seen it over time that such cast coated papers don't look very good with pigment inks, it still may be o.k. with dye inks to a degree.
Photo paper sellers on Amazon or Ebay typically do not specify the paper type - cc cast coated or PE/RC - PE film / resin coated .You find cc papers typically more in the lower performance range - gamut size - black level and as well in the lower pricing range - but there is an overlap to the PE papers. You need to test every ink/paper combination for the look - gloss etc and the gamut or black level , that's the only way that you find combinations which fit four expectations considering price and performance
Back of paper seems more paper like, but a plastic feel to it.

Could be right that it may be suited for dye ink more than pigment. Maybe that's what they mean "If using an Epson printer, set it to Vivid" which I've never seen before. It has a veil look to it with the pigment, sort of a haze. More prominent with some colors than others in the color profiler's test charts. It is odd stuff.

I recall some Kodak paper where the ink sat on the surface and never soaked in. It was wet for a long time if not a day or more. I thought maybe I loaded the wrong side, but the other side puddled and ran all over the place. I think it was with a long-gone HP printer though and don't recall the ink type. Never bought Kodak paper since.

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It has a veil look to it with the pigment, sort of a haze. More prominent with some colors than others
Yes, I have seen such papers as well, pigment inks are more demanding in this respect - they don't harmonize with the coating of all papers even if the seller claims great colors, great prints and a super feel and look on all inkjet printers. I consider such purchases a test, it could very well be - (but not that fequently..) that I find a paper with a good price/performance ratio.

There have been swellable papers by HP and Kodak loong time ago, the coating of those dries up over the years , and looses its capability to absorb the inks .
 
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