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Can DURABrite printers be used for photo printing?

Discussion in 'Epson InkJet Printers' started by Nozzle, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Jun 12, 2017
    Arebo

    Arebo Newbie to Printing

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    I broke one of my epson l1300 bk thank and when i print more than one page the ferst is faine and the second is empty blank and page 3 fine pege 4 blank ...????
     
  2. Jun 19, 2017
    Celso

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    Dear All, very interesting thread. Currently I have Canons with refillable carts. Unfortunately, fading is very bad, which fact makes me look for other alternatives. Epson expression line is cheap and uses Durabrite carts. After reading this thread I am considering to buy an Epson XP214. It is a 4 color printer. In addition to Precision Colors, who are the other most known good suppliers of pigment ink? Many thanks.
     
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    Ink stained Fingers

    Ink stained Fingers Printer Master

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    There are some comments here as well - see the last entries
    https://www.printerknowledge.com/th...mage-specialists-inks.11676/page-2#post-99006

    You have the option to use good performing dye inks or stay with pigment inks for your printer, you'll need the capability to create icm-color profiles in all cases since you are using the printer/driver in some off-regular operating mode with 3rd party papers.
    When it comes to pigment inks I very much prefer to do an overprint with a gloss optimizer for a better look, but that's a matter of personal preference. If you print on matte papers you won't need a GO overprint at all. It is difficult to name a good or the best ink supplier, it is a combination of performance, judgement and pricing, you may go for premium priced inks like Conecolor Pro by Vermont inks or Lyson by Marrutt or other suppliers like precisioncolors or octoinkjet. When you do prints with different inks you probably see differences but there is no simple measure to rate those against, beyond tests like gamut volume or black level, and you may prefer a local supplier over some other remote sources.
     
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    Celso

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    Hi All,

    Unfortunately, prints with non-OEM dye ink fade too quickly. In theory, I would be okay printing the photos that I hang on the wall every two/three years. However, the prints with non-OEM inks fade in three/four months, which is ridiculous.

    After, reading several posts in this great site and in this thread, I purchased an used Epson XP 214 (there are not ARC or resettable chips available to the current models in the market today and the WF line is not available in my country). My goal is to print with pigment ink (I used to print my photos with Canon MX721, but now I intend to print them in the Epson).

    The printer is very (very) slow but I am getting nice results with the matte paper option in the driver. However, I do get noticeable bronzing effects.

    My question are

    a) It is suggested to substitute the matte black for a photo black. Which are good options of photo black to the XP 214 (probably the same ones that are available to the WF line...)?
    b) I read that photo blacks are in fact dye inks. If so, doesn´t it impact the longevity of the photos? Instead of printing with 4 pigment inks it would print with 3 pigment inks + 1 dye ink...

    Many thanks.
     
  5. Sep 30, 2017
    Ink stained Fingers

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    Sure you can buy a photo pigment black , that's an ink out of an ink set used for photo printers like the R2880, R2000, R3000, R2400 and similar.
    Don't use dye black inks, they fade . Bronzing is not just an effect of the black ink but as well of cyan, it depends on the individual ink/paper combination whether the effect is strong or not.
    Don't use any Durabrite compatible or other matte black pigment inks, they don't adhere well to glossy surfaces, they are sensitive to the touch.

    To prevent that bronzing you would have to use a gloss optimizer in a separate print pass with a separate black ink cartridge filled with GO, and then printing 'black' in the B/W mode via the driver. The GO is used in the R1800, 1900, 2000, P400 printer models, and refill liquids are available. You'll see a distinct difference on your prints - bronzing is gone, the black looks really black , but... it takes another printing cycle and needs the time for it.
     
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    Celso

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    Thank you. Also good explanations about the use of GO, which is obvious to the experienced ones but not to the newbies.
     
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    Fantastic testing..I just got a new Epson Work Force 7610 taking 13" paper using Durabrite inks, and have leftover Epson Premium Photo paper luster. Wouldn't that be a good fix? Also, I am starting to get cold feet that from your test that photos won't look as great as I had with my dead Epson 1400. Maybe I should sell the 7610 before setting it up and bite the bullet and go for a 1430. What say you? Regards,Millard
     
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    you had a reason to get this Workforce 7610, with options a 1430 would not give you. Durabrite inks are designed to give a good and crisp print on normal and matte papers . The driver offers as well options for photo print but with the deficiencies as described in the WF-2010W test, and the WF 7610 is no different in this respect. I did the same tests with a WF-7110, with the same results.
    You have some options if you go for refill cartridges - you use a separate inkset for photo prints, either pigment inks as used in photo printers like the P600 , or you could swap over to dye inks getting rid of the specific pigment ink related problems. You may use dye inks just for photo printing or all your print jobs.
     
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