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Ive owned several Canon printers. Started with a BJC-4200, followed by an IP4300, MP640 and now an MG6150. From the 4300 I have refilled my cartridges. Not because I print high volumes, but because I dont want to pay the outrageous prices Canon (and others) charge for their ink.

Over the years Canon made it harder to refill their cartridges. First came the chips, then the top clearance issue (which made me cut out the inner plastic covers of my 640) and later the opaque cartridges.

I always used the top filling method, but with the MP640 I switched to the German Durchstich Method. Then with the MG6150, with the opaque cartridges, I added a d=0.01 gram scale to my refilling equipment so I could weigh the cartridges when refilling.

Ive never been very happy with the German Durchstich Method. It does work (Ive used it for over a year) but I always had trouble getting the needle in the right position (both with transparent and opaque cartridges). I also have the feeling (which I cannot prove) that poking with a needle through the sponge is not good for the sponge. Finally, cleaning the syringes and needles after refilling is a messy task that takes quite some time (I know some dont clean their syringes but I did).

At some point I decided I wanted to keep my MG6150, wanted transparent cartridges and get rid of the syringe cleaning process. So heres what I did.

I bought some sets of used transparent 520/521 cartridges;

I bought some sets of used opaque 525/526 cartridges;

As I didnt have information on how the 520/521 cartridges were treated (internet purchase) I wanted to flush them. I removed the factory seal ball with a carpenters owl and force water through the cartridge with a 60 ml syringe that exactly fitted the hole left by the seal ball. I flushed until no more colored water came out. I then used the paper towel method to dry the cartridges for 2 days.

I replaced the chips on the transparent 520/521 cartridges with those from the 525/526 cartridges. Its actually very easy, you only have to cut off the right one of the two notches and the chip will slide off easily. I use two drops of glue on the receiving cartridge to hold the chip in place. When the glue is still liquid and allows slight movement of the chip I do a chip reset, to make sure the chip is in the correct position.

I got squeezable ink bottles, so I dont need to worry about cleaning syringes and needles anymore. This really adds to the easiness of refilling.

I refilled the cartridges through the hole left by the seal ball. All cartridges were flushed and some suck up the ink in the sponge faster than others. What I found to work well is to fill the ink reservoir about halfway and then let the cartridge drip five drops of ink. This tells me there is an ink flow through the cartridge. After the five drops I reseal the ink outlet (with an orange clip) and continue to fill the cartridge with ink. From that moment, ink is sucked into the sponge much faster. I only do this during the first refill after flushing the cartridge.

My concern was the MG6150s limited top clearance. With the IP4300 I used Phillips screws and with the MP640 I removed the plastic covers inside. As the MG6150 is still under warranty I dont want to destroy it. I got some silicone plugs that nicely fit the refill hole. To be on the safe side, I use a piece of electricians tape to cover the plug. Ive had no dripping cartridges.
As shown by the picture and the enlargement, the tape covers the plug and gives a good extra seal.

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I think I finally found my preferred refill method. Just wanted to share with you guys.

Thanks for reading
 

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MP640 said:
Ive never been very happy with the German Durchstich Method. It does work (Ive used it for over a year)
but I always had trouble getting the needle in the right position (both with transparent and opaque cartridges). I also have the feeling (which I cannot prove) that poking with a needle through the sponge is not good for the sponge. Finally, cleaning the syringes and needles after refilling is a messy task that takes quite some time (I know some dont clean their syringes but I did).
I too tried the German method for a while and like you found the top method also suited me better.

I got squeezable ink bottles, so I dont need to worry about cleaning syringes and needles anymore. This really adds to the easiness of refilling.
I think I finally found my preferred refill method. Just wanted to share with you guys.
Thanks for reading
I'll have to agree that the SquEasy bottles are a dream to use instead of the syringes. (Clean Hands)
 

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There are various grades of electrical tape. Variances exists between the type of PVC or vinyl used and also the type of adhesive used on the tape.
Depending on the grade, the PVC or electrical tape might shrink and come loose or the adhesive might not be aggressive enough and the tape will not seal.

When using these type of plugs, the wall, when the ball is removed MUST be perfect. If there are scratches or nicks air can seep through.

When these plugs fit it, it follows the taper of the tunnel and this taper naturally wants to squeeze the plug back out, so it is important to use some type of tape above the plug. This tape needs to fulfill two functions. The first it is to stop the plug from easing back up and out of the tunnel. The second function is to provide a secondary seal that will not allow to seep through. The most consistent tape that fulfills both these functions are aluminum duct tape. Flat sheets of flexible aluminum with adhesive on one side. Because this tape is used for Heating and Ventilation purposes, the adhesive is strong and being metal, there is no shrinkage as we can get with vinyl tape. The only drawback is that each time it is used, it likely needs to be discarded because the tape will be damaged upon removal but that should not be an issue.
 

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Thank you for your feedback. I will get this aluminum duct tape.
 

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Question:- if Aluminium tape is used on a complete set of cartridges in a print head
would there still be enough room for all of the cartridges to fit given the thickness of this tape.. :idunno
 

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I, too have tried the German Method, but the carts invariably leaked from the needle hole from me, and I too think the "sponge" is unavoidably damaged by piercing with the needle. I went back to top filling, using squeeze bottles, and never looked back.

I tossed the german-filled carts....

Wayne
 

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If you look carefully at the photos, you'll see a taper on the plugs
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I have reported problems with the German method long times ago ever since I tried it. My problem was exactly like Turbguy's that I could not stop ink from coming out of the needle hole. I stuck with the good old top fill method. I have found the best plugs from Hobbicolors shown here:
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Sorry for the small image. I grabbed it from Hobbicolors' ebay listing. The plugs I got came with the refill kit I purchased enough for my cartridges for one printer plus a few spares. These plugs have a hat or a rim on the top which prevents it from falling into the cartridge and also makes it easier to unplug. The body of the plug is tapered so it is easier to plug into the small hole drilled on the top of the cartridge.

A few months ago I was able to acquire a set of Epson K3 compatible inks from Hobbicolors despite that Hobbicolors did not sell it on eBay. After using the K3 inks for a couple of months I have to say that I am totally convinced by the quality of Hobbicolors. I then ordered from their ebay store a large 5 color refill kit for many of my Canon printers. That's when I got those nice little silicone plugs. The one I got are black ones not the white color as pictured. I believe they are the same silicone plugs.

The plugs do work well. Seal perfectly all my cartridges. Just now I started a print job of 40 pages of text documents with about 10% colors. The printer (MP830) has been left on since last weekend. It started right into printing without even doing a cleaning cycle first. The prints are perfect. Very saturated colors and bold black text. The pigment ink is among the best I ever used. Dries fast too. Much faster than Canon OEM pigment ink. Cheaper than Image Specialists ink. I now have a perfect 2nd source of good quality ink. And I will no longer refill with German Method.

This is funny. It started a trend when the German method was first introduced. Now I see a reverse trend.
 

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mikling said:
The plug will not be easy to unplug when you want to refill the cart again. The plug can fall into the cartridge and it will never come out again. Sorry, Mikling. It is not a good product in my experience.
 

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MP640 said:
Thank you for your feedback. I will get this aluminum duct tape.
Electric tape won't work. I have tried it. It will leak after a few weeks if not days. Have never used aluminum tape yet. Probably better.
 
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