Paper adds color cast?

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I have some old, very old, HP premium paper that I've been playing with.
I remember, perhaps poorly, that images printed with a now dead and gone HP printer (probably dye inks) looked fine. Using it with an Epson workforce (pigment ink) produce blue (cyan?) casts on the image. Is this likely due to the age of the paper, or the difference between dye and pigment?
I intend to get some current Epson paper to see if the cast goes away.
In both cases I let the printer manage colors.
Curious newbie here, be gentle...
 

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The color, and also color casts, of an inkjet print is always the result of both ink AND paper.
For example black ink on most plain papers tends to print out on the greenish side, therefor most black inks are on the magenta side...
And a certain HP paper which appears in the printer menu is profiled in HP's printer driver. Different papers may match this color setting or may not...
and also different printers (drivers) have different paper profiles built in, the HP paper may match one of the epson profiles or may not..

.. if it's a very strong cast, there maybe other things going wrong..
 

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You may try to do color corrections via the driver at the extended settings and turning down the cyan color. If that does not give you a pleasant print yet you would need a icm-color profile made.
.. if it's a very strong cast, there maybe other things going wrong..
If e.g. magenta is missing in the nozzle check, a cleaning cycle would be the first step to fix the situation.
HP was selling some type of photo paper with a swellable surface long time ago, not with an instant dry coating as all the current photo papers are using today. Such a paper would need a longer drying time, and you would need to remove the prints from the output bin one by one.
 

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I ordered and received a sample pack from Red River. My plans are to create an image montage and print it on several sheets to find my favorites.
This, unfortunately, reminds me of being told by my wife to paint a wall "white…"
 

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I ordered and received a sample pack from Red River. My plans are to create an image montage and print it on several sheets to find my favorites.
This, unfortunately, reminds me of being told by my wife to paint a wall "white…"

Try using the attached profile. Premium Photo Paper Glossy. You must use HQ on this printer because it was meant for text printing. Blacks is composite no matte
 

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@mikling, thanks for the profiles. I tried them on plain paper and was pleased; the cyan cast seems much reduced. Red River says they'll have profiles for the 3620 in a couple of weeks. I'm still finalizing my test sheet, which is a standard reference image as well as some of my own. I'm treating this 3620 as training wheels to learn the process before I get a big boy printer.
 

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I think I've uncovered a more serious problem: I showed my son some test prints and he preferred the "bluer" ones because they looked like his iPhone. We may be creating a generation whose color sense is a bit off...
 

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I think I've uncovered a more serious problem: I showed my son some test prints and he preferred the "bluer" ones because they looked like his iPhone. We may be creating a generation whose color sense is a bit off...
It is easy to get fake news on the mobile and now we are going to get fake colors as well.
 

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I think I've uncovered a more serious problem: I showed my son some test prints and he preferred the "bluer" ones because they looked like his iPhone. We may be creating a generation whose color sense is a bit off...

Ask him who he believes. His Dad, or his lying eyes?" ;)
 
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