Epson ET-8550 Bronzing?

[Ink stained Fingers]

Thee is another Epson dye ink with the best fading performance - T54C - which is used in the SL-D500 photo station printer D500 in bottles, and in larger printers like the D1000 in ink bags.

https://www.printerknowledge.com/th...ing-test-106-114-t54c-gi-53.16479/post-142202

 

[pdan]

Thee is another Epson dye ink with the best fading performance - T54C - which is used in the SL-D500 photo station printer D500 ind bottles, and in larger printers like the D1000 in cartridges

https://www.printerknowledge.com/th...ing-test-106-114-t54c-gi-53.16479/post-142202

Interesting printers. Not much info about them on the UK website though. The SL-D500 seems to print less than A4 size?

 

[pdan]

Thee is another Epson dye ink with the best fading performance - T54C - which is used in the SL-D500 photo station printer D500 ind bottles, and in larger printers like the D1000 in cartridges

https://www.printerknowledge.com/th...ing-test-106-114-t54c-gi-53.16479/post-142202

Just seen a Youtube video on the SL-D500. Its really cute...I want one.

 

[thebestcpu]

Hi @pdan
I am jumping in late to the discussion, and I don't have the 8550 yet. I do have the P900, and I do use a Macbook Pro.
I do use the full Epson drivers (not AirPrint) and wanted to walk through the driver's screens on the P900. I am doing this through Photoshop. It won't be the same with the 8550, yet the pitfalls may be the same to watch out for, where your Photo Matte setting gets used when you don't intend to use it.
The key is to cover all the bases, to make sure that the printer is not making the choices for you, rather your software (e.g., Photoshop) is making all the decisions.

First is the first printer screen interface:

Key here is that you must have Photoshop Managing Colors, and you need to provide the color profile for the paper you are using, as this can impact what ink is used and how the ink is laid down. Note that setting the Printer Profile does not cover all the bases.
You next need to go into "Print Settings" on this page. I get the following image at that point:

I then have to click on Printer Options:

The option I need to check is Printer Settings and then I get this dialog:

As it turns out, with the P900, the media type defaults to using the printer settings (that's the bad sneak path for a problem). You need to make sure this is set to the media you are using and not use what was lst used in the Printer.
With those steps, you have higher assurance that the wrong paper type (and therefore the wrong ink) is being used on your paper.
The other option to consider is the quality level (mentioned before by another forum member). I suggest first trying the quality level you would like to use, and if you still have bronzing, go back and use "standard" or the equivalent that is on the 8550. That reduces the amount of ink and lessens the risk of bronzing. This second step may not be necessary if the paper type is verified to be correct. Without that verification, if the printer was last set to Matte, it will use the Matte Black ink and not the Photo Black ink.

These details were worth mentioning, and I have no clue why Epson does not have a more straightforward interface. I have heard the Epson Layout is supposed to be easier and cannot comment, as I have not used it to determine if it has a bad hidden sneak path as well.

Hope this helps
John Wheeler

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

The SL-D500 seems to print less than A4 size?

You would need the SL-D1000 for A4 prints...Epson confirms somewhere deep in the desccriptions that all DXXX printers use the same Ultrachrome D6r-S dye inks since quite a long time.

 

[pdan]

You would need the SL-D1000 for A4 prints...Epson confirms somewhere deep in the desccriptions that all DXXX printers use the same Ultrachrome D6r-S dye inks since quite a long time.

The Ultrachrome D6r-S dye ink set could be a good replacement for the inks used in ET-18100?

 

[pdan]

Hi @pdan
I am jumping in late to the discussion, and I don't have the 8550 yet. I do have the P900, and I do use a Macbook Pro.
I do use the full Epson drivers (not AirPrint) and wanted to walk through the driver's screens on the P900. I am doing this through Photoshop. It won't be the same with the 8550, yet the pitfalls may be the same to watch out for, where your Photo Matte setting gets used when you don't intend to use it.
The key is to cover all the bases, to make sure that the printer is not making the choices for you, rather your software (e.g., Photoshop) is making all the decisions.

First is the first printer screen interface:
View attachment 17536


Key here is that you must have Photoshop Managing Colors, and you need to provide the color profile for the paper you are using, as this can impact what ink is used and how the ink is laid down. Note that setting the Printer Profile does not cover all the bases.
You next need to go into "Print Settings" on this page. I get the following image at that point:

View attachment 17537

I then have to click on Printer Options:

View attachment 17538
The option I need to check is Printer Settings and then I get this dialog:

View attachment 17539

As it turns out, with the P900, the media type defaults to using the printer settings (that's the bad sneak path for a problem). You need to make sure this is set to the media you are using and not use what was lst used in the Printer.
With those steps, you have higher assurance that the wrong paper type (and therefore the wrong ink) is being used on your paper.
The other option to consider is the quality level (mentioned before by another forum member). I suggest first trying the quality level you would like to use, and if you still have bronzing, go back and use "standard" or the equivalent that is on the 8550. That reduces the amount of ink and lessens the risk of bronzing. This second step may not be necessary if the paper type is verified to be correct. Without that verification, if the printer was last set to Matte, it will use the Matte Black ink and not the Photo Black ink.

These details were worth mentioning, and I have no clue why Epson does not have a more straightforward interface. I have heard the Epson Layout is supposed to be easier and cannot comment, as I have not used it to determine if it has a bad hidden sneak path as well.

Hope this helps
John Wheeler

Thank you for your very detailed post!

Normally I always print via Epson Print Layout.

 

[pdan]

When I do print via the photo editor software I think do as you suggest (?).

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

The Ultrachrome D6r-S dye ink set could be a good replacement for the inks used in ET-18100?

The question at the end is how much you are willing to pay more for an incremental performance gain of the T54C inks.

You are the user, and you are in quite a good situation - you can select between various good inks - 106 - 114 - T54C , and you can balance price against performance. You can as well mix inks - e.g. staying with the 114 inks for the CMY colors and gray and the 106 or T54C dye black ink.

Epson is calling the inks used primarilary for commercial printing 'Ultrachrome' , that can be pigment inks or dye inks or inks for textile printing and similar, the dye inks 'Claria' are the premium dye inks for private use in photo oriented printers. Such printers come as well with a lower droplet size of 1.5 pl vs. 3 - 4 pl for office type use, and possibly with more inks - light inks or additional colors.

Canon differentiates the inks as well - the premium dye inks are the Chromalife (+) inks - the Chromalife inks are available in bottles e.g. for the G550, the somewhat more durable inks Chromalife + are available only in cartridges e.g. for the P200 .

The Canon pigment inks are called 'Lucia' , there are several generations on the market with different performance - Lucia Pro, Lucia Pro II is the latest ink generation.