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poona888

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Hi,

Is anyone bought the ChromiumPro Epson 6 color pigment inks and refill empty cartridge from www.inkjetcarts.us? How is the quality of the ink and cartridge using on Epson R300? They said the ink was supply Image Specialists and can anyoone cofirm it?
 

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Epson R300 printers are not pigment based, so you might want to get the dye ink and not the pigment ink. From what I've read here and on other boards, it will either work fine, or wreck your printer instantly.

I bought a pigment refill kit for the Epson C88 from them. The ink has been working fine, but the cyan is extremely deep blue, so it's quite a change in color gamut from the dyebased HP business printer I used to use. I've read that MIS' cyan ink has this same problem (and that the Epson OEM cyan ink isn't much lighter), so it's not a quality issue, and leads me to believe that it is Image Specialists ink, but I'm still not 100% sure. A post in MIS' forums says that this makes the photo printing function work better due to the intensity of the other two colors needing the strong blue to balance it out, but since I use it only for business printing, I've actually considered using photo cyan pigment to refill rather than regular.

The empty cartridges, however, were another issue. I followed the refill instructions to the letter but the cartridges did not make a very good seal with the needle valves in the printhead carrier and leaked into the printer. I would not use the blank cartridges, however, the cost of the ink /and/ the blank cartridges with auto-reset chips is cheaper than /just/ buying the auto-reset chips from MIS. And you get twice as much ink (MIS' kits only come with 2 oz). I prefer using/resetting the OEM Epson chips in refillable cartridges because it keeps you from running the cart dry, however, having the auto-reset chips on backup is a good idea - I've fried three sets of black chips for the C88 so far, but all the Epson color chips seem to be working just fine and the auto-reset chips don't seem to be easily damaged. You must remember that the new series of auto-reset chips (MIS' as well) does not reset on power down or after hitting 10%, they only reset if you actually hit the cartridge-change button on the printer, take it out, and put it back in, and only if the Epson software has started giving you low ink warnings.

I wound up buying MIS' blank cartridges, which look completely different from the ones Inkjetcarts uses, and using bottom fill adapters to prime them. So far, they're working fine after about 1,500 prints. I'm experimenting with converting Epson cartridges into easily refillable tanks (drilling pinholes here and there just doesn't cut it for me), but I need a steady supply of empties to experiment with. If you have any empty carts you're willing to donate, let me know (I'm not planning on getting into the refill business, far too much hassle). I suspect using MIS' cartridges is the best way to go, /however/, even MIS changes suppliers on their cartridges to whatever's available at the time, so I suspect it doesn't matter who you buy them from as much as which manufacturing plant this quarter's shipment came out of.
 

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Thanks for all the info. Is Image Specialists ink is a good ink supply?
 

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Image Specialists is supposed to be one of the best matches for Epson inks.

If you do decide to get pigment ink, you must remember to print /all/ the time, and if you plan on any downtime, you should get an extra set of carts filled with ammonia or cleaning fluid (available from MIS) and flush the ink out of the printhead that way to prevent clogging.
 

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Thanks for reply.

So it mean if I using pigment ink I need to using the printer everyday if not the print head will clog. Am I right? How about the Epson R800 printer, will it need to print everyday to keep clog free? Do you have any experenice on the dye ink with UV protection?

If buy the pigment ink should I buy it MIS or inkjetcrats? How about the blank cartridge should I buy from MIS not inkjetcarts?

I have a few Canon printer and print great photo and no head clog but the print will not last long before it fade. Should I just buy the dye ink for Epson R300 instead of pigment ink? If I am using dye ink on Epson R300 printer, will I still need to print everydays?
 

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Because the R300 is not designed for pigment inks, it is more likely to clog up. The R800 is already designed for pigment ink printing, and the real Ultrachrome and aftermarket Chromium inks are less likely to dry out like the Durabrite inks in the C8x printers, but you still want to keep them running regularly because it can be very tough to clear a clog if it does happen.

My suggestion would be to buy the ink and empty cartridge kit from inkjetcarts, but don't use the empty cartridges, just buy them so you have the chips. Get blank cartridges and a chip resetter from MIS, and use the chips from the Epson cartridges. But if you accidentally short out a chip with the resetter, you can use the auto reset chips from inkjetcarts until you can buy more regular chips (MIS has them for $2 or so). The auto reset chips are annoying so I don't use them unless I ruin a regular chip (I keep shorting out the black ones for some reason).

If you are thinking about buying an R800, know that it takes more colors than the R300, plus a gloss cartridge, so it will print better, and glossier pictures than the R300 will with the pigment inks. If you use pigment inks in the R300 the colors won't be as bright (this is a problem with any pigment ink, it is not as colorful as dye), and will not be as glossy since pigment ink is normally matte. You will need to use a color profile with the inks in order to make your prints come out as good as possible.

If you use dye ink in the R300 you won't need to print all the time, but you should never let /any/ inkjet printer sit around for a long period of time without using it, or it will dry out and clog up.
 

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Dear Members,
ALL Epson Printers are capable of printing photo dye, pigment inks and dye sublimation inks.
See the Epson Pro 7600 9600, R800/R1800, etc for case studies.

Epson even sells mulitple ink types for many of their printers. They do not sell pigmented inks for many of their printers only because there are other printers by Epson that run one ink type or the other already on the market.
Secondary reason is that switching ink types is NOT a recommended procedure for the unknowledgable. Switching of ink types back and forth could lead to issues that Epson does NOT want to handle on warranty calls. If you need proper procedures for switching ink types, email us and we'll help you. It is not recommended to switch back & forth frequently, as photo dyes mixed with pigments will congeal and cause MAJOR issues.
It would be better to properly install one ink type or the other and LEAVE it just that way.

All Epson printers produce a small amount of air in the heads and this issue develops into a more pronounced issue during periods of disuse.
The best solution is to print something at least every so often. A good set of color charts will save countless amounts of ink over even periodic head cleanings, in addition the inks will be laid down on paper and not into the printers internal sponge. email us for free colorized charts.

Air causes ALL inks to dry, and air in the head will cause any ink to dry in the head. Printing and printing often is the absolute best way to ensure you do not accumulate air in Epson printheads. Printing maintenance charts will circulate inks through the head of Epson printers and clear air bubbles, this in fact is all that a head cleaning does. The BIG difference is the waste ink from a head cleaning dumps that ink onto the waste pad and it drains to the internal sponge. Printing maintenance charts will also cycle new ink into the head and also clear air, but the ink is actually printed onto the paper with a result for you to see instead of into your sponge. Then further if you only have an issue with a single color you can further print a single color chart to effectively clear a single head channel, wasting no ink on the other channels like a head cleaning does.

There are specially formulated head cleaners and the refillable carts can be used for delivery. These products are also recommended for ink type changes to prevent mixing of the inks in the head. The chemicals in the head cleaners are the same elements that are already present in the inks, so the higher powered cleaners reconstitute the drying inks in the heads.

Refillable carts are great and we use them daily on all 35+ of our Epson printers, as far as issues with these carts (proper priming is necessary). All the air needs to printed for the system to provide a good liquid lock on the inks from the carts to the head. It normally takes a good procedure of 7-12 prints and no more than a single head cleaning or two to completely prime a typical good printing 4 color C88. If you have banding or bleeding this needs to be rectified as quickly as possible to achieve a good liquid lock. Once the prime is established just refill the carts and try to print as much as possible. If the printer is not used often at least try to print maintenance charts weekly and head off any air related issues as quickly as possible.

We hope this reply helps you!

Ross
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MIS ( www.inksupply.com ) has a program on their site called MIS Autoprint that will automatically print an image of your choice at a time set by you as often as once a day to once every two weeks.
 

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The Epson Looks very good and its quality seems very interesting if it is working fast I think that there will be more people to buy them.


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