[Tool] ChromIQ – a macOS and Windows GUI for ArgyllCMS printer profiling (v3.13.0-beta)

[riclin]

Hi Sebastian,

I've got a question regarding Step 4 - Build profile. In the manual settings one can set a A2B (-q) and a B2A (-b) quality. The info box states that B2A Quality is derived from A2B quality automatically, if B2A is not set. Reading the help for colprof says: Default for -b is Low quality. For me that means, one have to explicitly set the -b switch with a quality setting. A quick look at the sources for colprof confirmed that. Checking the ChromIQ log one can see that the call to colprof gets a -q argument but no -b. Are you really sure, that the info box text is correct?

Ronald
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My understanding is that -b tracks -q unless specifically set otherwise. I also mentioned this in slightly more detail in response to the query in the YAAW thread.

 

[itsab1989]

Hi Sebastian,

I've got a question regarding Step 4 - Build profile. In the manual settings one can set a A2B (-q) and a B2A (-b) quality. The info box states that B2A Quality is derived from A2B quality automatically, if B2A is not set. Reading the help for colprof says: Default for -b is Low quality. For me that means, one have to explicitly set the -b switch with a quality setting. A quick look at the sources for colprof confirmed that. Checking the ChromIQ log one can see that the call to colprof gets a -q argument but no -b. Are you really sure, that the info box text is correct?

Ronald
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I handed this over to Claude - hope this helps:

Hi Ronald,

thanks for the sharp question — and for actually reading the colprof sources before asking. You've hit a genuinely confusing spot in Argyll's documentation, and I'm happy to report the info box is correct. The subtlety is that there are two different "defaults" hiding in that -b flag:

Case 1 — you don't pass -b at all (this is what ChromIQ does when you leave B2A Quality unset). In colprof.c the B2A quality variable starts out as a sentinel:

int iquality = 1; /* A2B quality */
int oquality = -1; /* B2A quality same as A2B */

and later, after all the options are parsed, that sentinel is resolved like this:

if (oquality == -1) { /* B2A tables will be used */
oquality = iquality;
}

So with no -b on the command line, the B2A quality is copied from the A2B (-q) quality — exactly what the info box says.

Case 2 — you pass a bare -b with no letter after it. That's the one the usage text describes: "-b [lmhun] Low quality B2A table - or specific B2A quality…". In the source, the -b parser ends with:

} else
oquality = 0; /* bare -b, no argument → Low */

So "-b means low quality" is true — but only if you actually type -b. Omitting the flag entirely is a different code path. (Amusingly, there's a commented-out alternative usage line right below it in the source that says "…same as -q (def)" — Graeme knew.)

You can see it for yourself in two minutes, no source-diving needed. Build the same measurement twice and dump the table resolutions:

colprof -qh MyChart → iccdump: all six A2B/B2A tables at CLUT resolution 33 (high)
colprof -qh -b MyChart → iccdump: A2B tables at 33, B2A tables at 9 (low)

I ran exactly this on a real 1168-patch measurement to double-check before answering: without -b, the B2A tables come out at grid 33 — high quality, inherited from -qh. With a bare -b, they drop to grid 9.

So the ChromIQ log you looked at (a -q argument, no -b) is precisely the "inherit from A2B" case, and the info box describes it correctly. But your question shows the wording could make this trap clearer — the Argyll usage text really does read as if low were the default. I'll take that as a hint to mention the distinction in the info box.

Thanks again for checking so carefully — questions with source references are the best kind.