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Hi all,
Ok, I have several questions below, so I hope someone is patient with me and can answer. Thanks for any feedback.
A Year back I went for buying a SpiderX Studio suitcase with SpyderX Elite and SpyderPrint scanner. Only later I read a lot of negative tings about the Datacolor products, on this forum and others, however, most of those posts are quite old, more than 10-13 years ago.
Has anyone tested if the later products have the same issues as the older colorimeters / spectrometers?
Some of the problems, if I understood correctly, was that Datacolor has implemented some proprietary black level compensation that is always on, and that when editing images in photoshop for softproofing one must use saturation intent and no black level compensation. Then also som issues with reading color patches correctly when reading per line, and not patch by patch.
I was not really satisfied with the result of the profiles I got, so I started looking around, because I might have missed something. I started playing around with ArgyllCMS, which was fascinating, and wonder why the SpyderPrint spectrometer is not supported as hardware that can be used with ArgyllCMS? I saw old posts 13 year ago where one was working on a driver.
I imagine that most of the problems with Datacolor is in the software, and the spectrometer itself could be used regardless?
The older extensive tests done, comparing the spyderprint and i1 (dont exacly remember the product names) showed that reading patches correctly could give good readings. Personally, I found the ruler board (SpyderGuide) making scanning more difficult and causing misreadings, but when I only used the board as a ruler to lean the spectrometer against the edge, then it went much smoother to scan patches. Also, the the paper I used, like copy paper or similar, to make a profile for, then I had to use several layers of A3 paper underneath to prevent color influence from the table underneath.
But what is required for creating such a driver to use the spectrometer? a (USB comunication monitor should reveal what happens).
Are there Hardware issues preventing this?
Also, I have speculated, like some others I read on forums, If I can scan with SpyderPrint, export the readings, and then use them in ArgyllCMS for making a profile? Is there a point to do this? F.ex. do one avoid the incorrect use of intent and black level compensation issues on Datacolor profiles this way? It all seems a bit inflexible and locked to Datacolor software and processes.
Or is it better to just sell the SpiderX Studio suitcase and get a colormunki for both screen and printer calibration? Or other product not too expensive?
Thanks,
Cheers,
K
Ok, I have several questions below, so I hope someone is patient with me and can answer. Thanks for any feedback.
A Year back I went for buying a SpiderX Studio suitcase with SpyderX Elite and SpyderPrint scanner. Only later I read a lot of negative tings about the Datacolor products, on this forum and others, however, most of those posts are quite old, more than 10-13 years ago.
Has anyone tested if the later products have the same issues as the older colorimeters / spectrometers?
Some of the problems, if I understood correctly, was that Datacolor has implemented some proprietary black level compensation that is always on, and that when editing images in photoshop for softproofing one must use saturation intent and no black level compensation. Then also som issues with reading color patches correctly when reading per line, and not patch by patch.
I was not really satisfied with the result of the profiles I got, so I started looking around, because I might have missed something. I started playing around with ArgyllCMS, which was fascinating, and wonder why the SpyderPrint spectrometer is not supported as hardware that can be used with ArgyllCMS? I saw old posts 13 year ago where one was working on a driver.
I imagine that most of the problems with Datacolor is in the software, and the spectrometer itself could be used regardless?
The older extensive tests done, comparing the spyderprint and i1 (dont exacly remember the product names) showed that reading patches correctly could give good readings. Personally, I found the ruler board (SpyderGuide) making scanning more difficult and causing misreadings, but when I only used the board as a ruler to lean the spectrometer against the edge, then it went much smoother to scan patches. Also, the the paper I used, like copy paper or similar, to make a profile for, then I had to use several layers of A3 paper underneath to prevent color influence from the table underneath.
But what is required for creating such a driver to use the spectrometer? a (USB comunication monitor should reveal what happens).
Are there Hardware issues preventing this?
Also, I have speculated, like some others I read on forums, If I can scan with SpyderPrint, export the readings, and then use them in ArgyllCMS for making a profile? Is there a point to do this? F.ex. do one avoid the incorrect use of intent and black level compensation issues on Datacolor profiles this way? It all seems a bit inflexible and locked to Datacolor software and processes.
Or is it better to just sell the SpiderX Studio suitcase and get a colormunki for both screen and printer calibration? Or other product not too expensive?
Thanks,
Cheers,
K
