HP OfficeJet 7000

[FLMK]

The original picture (resized):

The epson picture:

The HP picture:

 

[FLMK]

As I said, HP colors are milky...

This test is made on fujifilm premium plus photo paper (the best public paper available and findable on shops for me. Otherwise, I need to buy special papers on the web).

If the compatible ink is different, maybe it will fix the problem...

 

[FLMK]

Theses pictures were printed without calibration, that's why colors are lightly different...

But we don't have to be a specialist photographer to see that the HP colors are milky....

 

[FLMK]

And on the Epson photo paper, the difference is more visible for the HP (I didn't tried for the Epson printer, but with experience, I know it will be great like above even if it's not calibrated)...

 

[ghwellsjr]

It appears that your HP printer has only three dye ink colors and no black dye ink. I'm going to guess that your Epson printer has four dye inks plus a pigment black OR four pigment inks and it uses all of them on special Epson photo paper. Canon (and probably HP) printers don't put the black pigment ink on photo paper which may explain why your HP printer's photos so look milky. They have to simulate black by mixing all three of the other colors.

 

[FLMK]

In my Epson printer, i have 5 colors (cyan, light cyan, magenta, light magenta, yellow) and 1 black. It belongs to claria inks family, so, it's dye inks.

Concerning the HP printer, I don't know how it prints the black...

But I really think that it's not a problem of mixing the 3 colors but a problem with the paper. I explain:

First, I've printed a wedding photo on Hahnemle Fine Art Inkjet Canvas, and the black is black in this "paper".

Then, when I print pictures, the black ink level decreases.

Finally, when I print in grey scale or something like that, I don't have tint of cyan, magenta or yellow. Everything is grey and the picture is black and white.

That's why I'm attempted to say that it uses the black color or that he mixes correctly the 3 colors.

 

[The Hat]

FLMK
Try use some of the other settings for photo paper in the printer set up box (if there are others)
That printer should be printing perfect photos for you but you are not using HP paper.
The Image Specialists ink will work better on the Epson and Fuji photo papers so all is not lost.. :|

 

[FLMK]

I have 1 option for printing photos, but I have the choice for 6 papers...

I won't test all options for it (because the ink lever is almost low right now).

The only thing I'm thinking is to use Image Specialists inks, but the only thing that makes me to hesitate is to switch the black pigment ink with the black dye ink...

As I don't print text with this printer (I only print photos on this printer), I really want to swith the black pigment ink with the black dye ink but I don't want to have ink leaking.

If the hole of the black printhead is bigger, maybe the black ink will leak...

What do you think about this detail?

Do you think that the dye ink could leaks if I change the pigment for dye?

 

[The Hat]

FLMK If the hole of the black printhead is bigger, maybe the black ink will leak...

What do you think about this detail?
Do you think that the dye ink could leaks if I change the pigment for dye?

When you receive your Image Specialists inks use all of the inks together that were supplied to you for your printer.

So it goes like this you can replace pigment ink with dye ink... BUT not dye ink for pigment.
Dye ink will not leak in your printer and wont harm or clog your print head, so it is safe to use however.
You cant make your printer use the ink out of your large cartridge, regardless of which ink you put in it.

ghwellsjr It appears that your HP printer has only three dye ink colors and no black dye ink.
which may explain why your HP printer's photos so look milky

The HP printer uses all four colours when printing on plain paper, but only three when printing on glossy paper
because it cant use the pigment black, so to get the best photo quality HP only recommends HP photo papers.

When you use the Image Specialists inks they should work better with the photo paper
that you already have and you wont need to buy new HP photo paper.

I use this ink myself with only three colour inks in my printers just the same as yours has and can print
great quality photos on just about any of the good unbranded photo papers around, so dont panic.

I hope this helps calm your nerves..

 

[FLMK]

My printer uses vivera ink but contains only 4 colours:
- black pigment
- cyan dye
- magenta dye
- yellow dye

But Image Specialists provides 5 inks:
- black pigment
- black dye
- cyan dye
- magenta dye
- yellow dye

So, if I well understood, normally, I have to choose the black pigment to fit the HP ink schema but I can switch the black pigment with the black dye if I want.

Is that right?

I haven't understood what you told me when you say "You cant make your printer use the ink out of your large cartridge" (specially when you say " the ink out of your large cartridge").

Can you explain and be more explicit please? I think I've catched the idea but I'm not sure to have well understood, so, I prefer to have a confirm (you told me that I can't use cyan pigment ink if my printer uses cyan dye inks, it that right?).

I know that I can't replace dye inks by pigment ink because the pigment is bigger than dye.

But If we consider that, if I use dye inks, as the dye is smaller than the pigment, will it not leaks (because the hole of the black pigment hole is bigger than a black dye hole)?

I explain my idea: Imagine that the hole of the printhead for pigment is 0,2 micron whereas the dye is 0,1 micron (I give theses sizes only for explaination):

- We can conclude that dye is smaller than pigment (because if I use pigment inks whereas dye inks, it will clog the printhead)

so

- If I use pigment ink in a pigment hole printhead, it would be ok because the size matches, so the ink will be projected only when it's required but
- If I use dye ink in a pigment hole printhead, as the dye is smaller than the pigment hole printhead, it will fall out of the printhead because the hole is bigger than the dye ink...

I don't really understand how it's possible to use dye inks in a pigment printhead based....

What's is the best for me considering that I only prints photos on this printer on non HP papers. Should I choose:
- black dye inks?
or
- black pigment inks?

Then, I've seen that Image Specialists inks are close to original inks.

So, if I have milky pictures with the original inks, as the Image specialist inks are close to original inks, I will (in theory) have milky photos too...

I don't understand why I will have better pictures with Image Specialists inks....

(Sorry to make lots of posts about this subject, but I'm curious and I really want to be sure that I would not have problems)

PS: Thanks for you help, It permits me to calm my nerves as you said because I have answers to my several questions.