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Canon PIXMA G4410, Can it print on non photo card?

Discussion in 'InkJet Continuous Flow Systems' started by Laith, Mar 6, 2019.

  1. Mar 6, 2019
    Laith

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    It says here:
    Plain paper: 64 - 105 g/m²
    Canon photo paper: up to 275 g/m²

    Did anyone try printing on, say, 250 g/m² non photo paper? Thanks
     
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    @Laith, The description given for paper weights are correct, but plain or matte paper weights, always feels heavier than Glossy and photo papers, so a glossy photo paper calculated at 275 gm has the same density of 105 gm plain paper, confusing, yes very...
     
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    Thanks. If gsm is not the deciding property, then it might be thickness. Matte or plain might be thicker than photo paper for the same gsm.
     
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    @Laith, Because each 500 sheets of paper are measured in weight, (GSM) glossy paper has more density that plain, so by dividing 500 into 1 and you end up with a higher gram rating on the glossy paper...
     
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    Out of curiosity I measured the thickness of several media samples with a micrometer.
    - Plain paper of 80grm : 0.10mm. thick. Density : 0.80 gr/cmt3
    - Colored cardboard of 250gr : 0.37mm. thick. Density: 0.68 gr/cmt3
    - Epson Luster Premium Photo of 250gr : 0.26mm thick. Density: 0.96gr/cmt3
    You’re right in your assumptions. See the difference in thickness/density between that 250gr cardboard and the 250gr Epson Luster.
    Anyway, even if the specs of my IP3000 say that it will accept plain paper only between 64-105 gr, the old girl has no trouble handling those 0.37mm. thick cardboard sheets
    I wouldn’t know about a G4410 but probably it will behave similarly.
     
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    Those paper weight guides only confuse the average person even more, and none of them ever explain the weight difference between plain and glossy paper in my opinion..
     
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    Please post a link to the specs you mention. There might be more info in those specs that would potentially explain your seeming paper weight handling discrepancy.

    I found this link that appears to be a a PDF of the iP3000 specs showing the paper weight handling that may explain your experience.

     
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    Maybe this is true, but this is PrinterKnowledge and our readers may have a desire to know more.

    The link I provided gives one insight into how various paper weights are determined, and from there one can extrapolate why plain paper and glossy photo paper may have different weights whether the unit of measurement is lb, g, or mil. Fundamentals of knowledge help, sort of like learning algebra before tackling calculus.

    PS - Sir William Rowan Hamilton was a great Irish mathematician. :)
     

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