Trigger 37
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A very long time ago I was told by Canon tech support that their BCI-6 inks were Dye inks and that the BCI-3e inks are all pigmented. We all know for sure that the BCI-3e Blk is pigmented, as that has been demonstrated and widely published. When I order ink from just about anyone for my BCI-3e Blk ink carts, the bottle is labeled "Black -Pigmented"
However, I just printed a 6 color test image on my i850 (4 color) that is designed to purge ink out of each ink cart for 6 color printers. Then I dropped some water on to all the colors, including the black. They all smeared and ran together except the black, which did nothing. Water did not touch it (wonder if that is why so many people complain about their black ink clogs and it won't seem to clear up when soaking in water). One place that sells Image Specialist inks and their site makes a point to state that their inks match the manufactuer's inks is PrecisionColors.com. Here is the link to that claim.
http://home.eol.ca/~mikling/Inks.html
When you go to that link and look at their list of inks for Canon, their ink table shows that all their BCI-3e inks, (Cyan,Magenta,Yellow, Photo Cyan, Photo Magenta, are all "Dye" inks. When I take out the ink tanks from the i850 (I got it used) it seems the yellow looks like pigmented ink. It looks totally different from all my other Canon printer yellow ink. The other colors are too dark to see anything. The yellow is opaque, or at least it is much darker than any yellow I have ever seen.
The reason I'm asking for confirmation on this is that I have an i850 that uses the BCI-3e inks (the ink carts are just labeled with a large capital "E"). I don't want to be using pigmented ink for photos or anything. I think it cost much more, and it clogs up the printhead very easy if not maintained on a regular basis. So I was planning on purging the old ink from these carts, and filling them with Dye ink. The problem being, is the Canon Print driver is expecting the color gamut of Pigmented ink and will this totally mess up any photo printing. The only two printers in the Canon i Series that use the BCI-3e inks for color are the i550 and the i850. The i560, i860, i950, i960, iP4000, iP5000, iP6000 all use the BCI-6 inks which are Dye inks. The new iP6600D CLI-8 carts for all colors including black are Dye inks.
I have been to the Canon Web site and attempted a search on their knowledge base for these printers and did not find any information about Pigmented or Dye inks. I got my original information about this from a Canon Support tech.
If anyone has any experience with either the i550 or i850 in converting them over to Dye ink I would like to hear about it.
However, I just printed a 6 color test image on my i850 (4 color) that is designed to purge ink out of each ink cart for 6 color printers. Then I dropped some water on to all the colors, including the black. They all smeared and ran together except the black, which did nothing. Water did not touch it (wonder if that is why so many people complain about their black ink clogs and it won't seem to clear up when soaking in water). One place that sells Image Specialist inks and their site makes a point to state that their inks match the manufactuer's inks is PrecisionColors.com. Here is the link to that claim.
http://home.eol.ca/~mikling/Inks.html
When you go to that link and look at their list of inks for Canon, their ink table shows that all their BCI-3e inks, (Cyan,Magenta,Yellow, Photo Cyan, Photo Magenta, are all "Dye" inks. When I take out the ink tanks from the i850 (I got it used) it seems the yellow looks like pigmented ink. It looks totally different from all my other Canon printer yellow ink. The other colors are too dark to see anything. The yellow is opaque, or at least it is much darker than any yellow I have ever seen.
The reason I'm asking for confirmation on this is that I have an i850 that uses the BCI-3e inks (the ink carts are just labeled with a large capital "E"). I don't want to be using pigmented ink for photos or anything. I think it cost much more, and it clogs up the printhead very easy if not maintained on a regular basis. So I was planning on purging the old ink from these carts, and filling them with Dye ink. The problem being, is the Canon Print driver is expecting the color gamut of Pigmented ink and will this totally mess up any photo printing. The only two printers in the Canon i Series that use the BCI-3e inks for color are the i550 and the i850. The i560, i860, i950, i960, iP4000, iP5000, iP6000 all use the BCI-6 inks which are Dye inks. The new iP6600D CLI-8 carts for all colors including black are Dye inks.
I have been to the Canon Web site and attempted a search on their knowledge base for these printers and did not find any information about Pigmented or Dye inks. I got my original information about this from a Canon Support tech.
If anyone has any experience with either the i550 or i850 in converting them over to Dye ink I would like to hear about it.