ACTION Photo paper and canvas and other low cost papers

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Out of curiosity I tried the Glossy 210g photo paper (€ 1.45 for 20 sheets) and the A4 canvas (€ 0.99 for 7).

The photo paper has a paper back and a very flat and glossy surface.
Although the (pigment) ink adheres well, it is not absorbed fast enough and creates sagged borders and uneven surfaces. It depends on the colour though.
It is much more visible on the first Colormunki page (where plain colours are printed) than on the second, probably a non-critical user would accept it.
I tried different paper settings to reduce the ink laid on, but no matte yet.
It is not a swellable paper. I have no dye printers operational anymore.

IMO this is poor paper, I would wait for Aldi or Lidl.

The canvas accepts the inks very well. The gamut is not terrific, but with a little tweaking some nice things could be done. Will test water resistance.

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The photo paper has a paper back and a very flat and glossy surface.
I think I have seen this paper as well, it is a cast coated (cc) paper, as you describe it - with a paper back. The coating is applied to the front side, and the ink solvent passes through the coating into the paper base , with different densities at different locations , and the solvent starts drying away and creating the waviness. This is a principal disadvantage with such papers , the effect gets smaller with heavier papers of this type - I'm using a 270gr cc paper for some prints w/o such effects.
The PE papers - the Aldi/Sihl included, are of a more complex structure, the paper base is sandwiched first with very thin PE foil, on both sides, and the coating (resin coating RC) is applied to one side. This PE film is a barrier for the solvent which cannot get into the paper base at all and the paper cannot get an irregular waviness. The backside of such paper is protected as well and gives a feel of a print from a digital lab.
Papers are not always classified as a PE or CC paper by the merchant, you may find it in the technical spec's in some cases but not always. PE papers are tpyically more expensive than CC papers, but there is an overlap in the range of 15-25ct/sheet A4 of both types.
And there are other differences between these paper types, the PE paper tpyically has a wider gamut and a better black level than the CC papers - it is visible in direct comparison.
I'm using as well 140-160gr A4 cc papers (Mediarange) with double sided coating, with clear A4 sleeeves in ring binders for albums, so such budget papers can serve a purpose.
I found some of such cc papers not very compatible with pigment inks but others are, the pigment ink seems to change the glossyness in some cases so testing is necessary.
 

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I printed the test sheet and the paper stays flat, no waves at all.
Gamut is no problem either.
But speckles everywhere, definitely not a paper for pigment ink.

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Try experimenting by using the plain paper and Hagaki settings…
With plain paper the speckles are much reduced (less ink applied).
But MBK is used spoiling the gloss.
No borderless either.
 
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Try experimenting by using the plain paper and Hagaki settings…
I'm afraid that I would be left out by all of that - Epson printers won't give me any 'Hagaki' settings...........................

What am I missing here as an Epson user ??

But MBK is used spoiling the gloss.
Or do a refill of a PBK ink into the MBK cartridge for special usage in such a case
 

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I'm afraid that I would be left out by all of that - Epson printers won't give me any 'Hagaki' settings...........................

What am I missing here as an Epson user ??


Or do a refill of a PBK ink into the MBK cartridge for special usage in such a case
I seldom print on matte - and have the 9500 just in case - so I could fill the PRO-10 MBK permanently with PBK.

The CO is switched off in the PRO-10 anyway for plain paper, but since the inks have a more equal gloss, the result will be better than in the 9500 (where I still use older inks).
With PRO-10 inks in the 9500 it would be the same ;).

The paper is not that bad to give it a chance.
 
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Hagaki inkjet prints with PBK and borderless.
Seems to apply not more ink than plain paper.
But the ink is not absorbed fast enough yet, with a magnifying glass the pools are still visible.

Dries immediate, no waving, even gloss.

Seems the PRO-10 does not apply CO for Hagaki, so the results on the 9500 are as good (since I enhanced some inks ;) ).

After all I've seen much worse paper.
 

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As far as I see it, Canon’s Pro10 driver applies those general settings, according to the media selected :

Plain paper : MBK, no CO, no extra margins, not much ink.
Hagaki : PBK, no CO, no extra margins, not much ink.
Photo papers ( except generic matte) : PBK, CO, no extra margins, more ink than plain/Hagaki
Photopaper generic matte : PBK, no CO, no extra margins, more ink than plain/Hagaki.
Fine Art media (including Canon matte pro premium ) : MBK, no CO, Extra margins, lots of ink, feed only from manual tray.
 
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