Has anyone tried this kit?

carlos

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I have used the top American fill method for almost five years now. Debating as to whether I wan to make the switch to German method. I found this kit on ebay which looks dummy-proof. Any thoughts. I cannot post the link so just do a search. Thanks.

DIY Ink Refill KIT System for Canon PGI-220 CLI-221
 

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carlos said:
I have used the top American fill method for almost five years now. Debating as to whether I wan to make the switch to German method. I found this kit on ebay which looks dummy-proof. Any thoughts. I cannot post the link so just do a search. Thanks.

DIY Ink Refill KIT System for Canon PGI-220 CLI-221
Why would you need this kit when none is necessary at all?
Once you can top fill then the German method is just as easy just as long as you use a 2 needle.

Try it and see for yourself before you spend your money on something thats not needed.
If you got any questions before hand or after then just ask.. :)
 

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That refill kit is ridiculous, tiny ink canister. Might as well just buy generics at that price and inconvenience. German with squeeze bottles is so much faster and easier, no necessary complicated devices like that kit.
 

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There is no point in shelling out $22 for this kit. I will put it use that towards good ink. Waiting for needles from Martin @ Octoinkjet.

How about this method?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebo9rhIVylA

Needle, pressure and seal the air vent. Interesting.
 

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Very interesting method. It's a vacuum filling method, similar to what some of us have used, with one important difference. By inserting the needle through the outlet filter, they avoid creating foam as air is sucked out. Foam is a somewhat troublesome problem for some vacuum methods. The disadvantage is that you have to pierce the outlet filter, with possible deterioration of its function.

(By the way, for those who have discussed this in the past, notice that the needle and syringe have nothing to do with formation of foam. You can see from this video that it's clearly the outlet filter that creates foam.)

Sometimes with vacuum methods you can get ink in the vent system, and that may interfere with release of ink during printing. At 2:49 he turns the cartridge and inspects it to see that this has not happened. He is fortunate that the end of the cartridge is transparent, but you still have to be careful about this even if the cartridges are opaque.
 

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carlos said:
There is no point in shelling out $22 for this kit. I will put it use that towards good ink. Waiting for needles from Martin @ Octoinkjet.

How about this method?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebo9rhIVylA

Needle, pressure and seal the air vent. Interesting.
Glad to see your not wasting your money on that ridiculous method earlier posted.
However this one in the YouTube video is not the German method either, its called the freedom method.

The way that this guy is filling his cartridges is a very good one and if you can copy it
then youll find it is even better than the German method.

The only criticism I have is he didnt reset the chip before he refilled.

I used a similar method to the one that he was using and have the link below for you to look at
and the original method by ghwellsjr; also if you do a search youll find a couple more of this same refill method..

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53093#p53093
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45963#p45963
 

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The other thing that might not be apparent from watching the video is that you must not push on the syringe. In other words, let the plunger draw back on its own and let the vacuum do its work. You do not want to fill under pressure.

In my comment I was referring to the Freedom Method by name, but this method differs from that in piercing the outlet filter. All in all I would say it's neatly done. Like the Freedom Method, this method does require some kind of adapter, such as the clip that they used, to vacuum seal the outlet port as you are filling.
 

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ThrillaMozilla said:
... let the plunger draw back on its own and let the vacuum do its work.
No. One must actively draw back the plunger to create the vacuum. But you'll be happy to know that syringes may use a silicone lubricant. :D
 

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stratman The Hat:

Why didn't you tell us you made another video? Your brogue was a little thicker than usual. :p
If I told you once Ive told you a hundred times thats cpla focail.
Besides that wasnt me I think it was the brother..:smack
 
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