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Thank you kindly Osage, & sorry for replying late both times. I didn't post clearly: left out the 1600 price, about half the other one. You know, due to your encouragement I'll give cli a shot: will be needing more printers elsewhere. Main quandary now that you afford me lots more options, is...

fyi also applies to ip8500 & i9000(not a misprint). Found ip1600d @ $99....more reasonable than the lowest respectively of just under $300 & 400 for the top two. Now to find a scanner...

Thanks so much for your kind answer Osage. I read somewhere rumors of some being able to use the inks successfully with newer models. MP 4500 is the only thing i've seen still being sold...$99 btw...& ip1600 in the other camp.... Kinda hoping for newer features / improvements..... All the best.

Have searched high & low web & here: ctually trying to find out which non-discontinued all in ones(if any) take that cartridge-- btw for the standalones highest is ip3000/6000? Many thanks in advance-- & profuse apologies if i missed the info somewhere.