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To Both Inez and Nelda, Nelda makes some very good points. But I would somewhat submit the damage the printer risk factor is somewhat reduced by refilling rather than by trying the more numerous inks available in the form of prefilled third party cartridges. Just fewer highly recommended refill...

To Inez, You do touch on some other problems in the pick your vendor game. Many ink vendors are simply middle men--they just buy ink from one source and empty cartridges from another source--and then refill the cartridges--or they just buy the prefilled cartridges in huge bulk--and then vend on...

To Inez and also Tin Ho, First, if Neil Slade uses G&G inks, that a pretty powerful endorsement. But I do ask Tin Ho--why should a lawsuit against G&G by Epson effect the Canon cartridge side of G&G business--even if Lawsuit by Epson may force G&G from the US market for Epson compatable...

To Inez, I think you will find these forum jam packed with information. And by the way, you have a very excellent printer in the ip5000. More importantly, the ip5000 is non-chipped which means your have all options open to you. Your three broad options are to use Canon OEM cartridges, to use...

Welcome Bobcoon, Short answer--many here are refilling the chipped CLI-5&8 cartridges. You have to navigate some nag screens, use only depleted OEM cartridges, and you lose ink monitoring. Many posts on this refilling section on the subject---but many are now many pages back. Steves digicams...

To jackson, Somewhat of an odd report---on a N of three--two Oem canon and one a third party cartridge. But one thing Dave at hobbicolors recommends is a slight sideward squeeze of the cartridge prior to putting the cartridge into the printer---which might remove the eventually from the...

I may be over concerned---but in the case of a hobbicolor cartridge--the final seal is accomplisd by both the screw thread and the screw thread bottoming out the top of the cartridge--nylon is a far better gasket material than steel.--and the hobbicolor cartridges can probably be relied on as...

To speedoom. I went to your link---not all that familar with the currency unit---but the above link stated they were selling canon OEM cartridges for the Canon Mp170---guess very expensive----the bottom link was for refill ink--which any chipped canon can use. Its just more hassle to refill a...

to drc023, I somewhat respectfully disagree that one can rely on the thread itelf to seal. A straight helical machine thread is not ment as a seal---maybe something like a spirial type pipe thread would work---but even then--in any kind of pressure application---the pipe thread is usually...

To Speedoom, It looks like the MP110 is non chipped, takes the BCI-24 cartridges, and would be also a good choice. The MP150/170 is chipped, takes more expensive cartridges, and prevents you from using dirt cheap third party cartridges. But understand that the reason I am recommending something...

To Fotofreak, Since my hypothesis is that the real sealing is done by the bottom surface of the screw head against the top surface of the cartridg itself, it then becomes possible to calculate how big of an air gap remains. Add that to the accepted principle that the human eyeball can't detect...

To Speedoom, Got a few thing to say------(1) By Monday?----in a complicated market you expect to make a good consumer choice by Monday? (2) Frankly I think the Canon the MP150&170 are a terrible choice if your printing volume is anyting but very low--those are chipped printers with small and...

You are correct in mentioning uou said only three to four cartridges out of 12 gave you feeding priblems. That did stick in my mind but I typed 8 o12--when I meant to say only eight of 12 were good. So that is my fault there and not yours--but even if its only three of 12 or a fraction defective...

To Jonalava, I would sure hate to see this thread end without some challenge to some of your conclusions. 1. Science is somewhat cheated here----you state you replaced both the hobbicolors in yellow and magenta with new ones---leaving the print vastly improved but still a little too...

HP makes some good points--other possibilities exist. But it still seems to me that we have not ruled out part of the problem being a poorly feeding cartridge. Only a set of systematic tests will get to the bottom of the matter.And all that is being done so far is to change many variables all...

A large number of good points are being made here--by HP, panos, Tin HO, and fotofreak. But to somewhat sum up----for the refiller----its sure helps to have one or more spare sets of cartridges. For a user purchasing a non-chipped Canon printer--or a chipped one for that matter--you start out...

To Oldman1, I may be wrong here but I don't believe there is even a plain ip6000 to compare to the ip6000d----but speculating here--the d may stand for digital as this models has a digital LCD screen and lots of Camera connection bells and whistles. But one thing for you to realise---the...

To Neil Slade, Hobbicolors is a fairly recent ink that has entered the Canon refill market. It has gotten very good reviews on very close to Canon OEM color balance. With many posting hobbicolors is in the same league with MIS and formulabs. That and the fact that hobbicolors offer very...

To Oldman1, If you are really ready to give up on HP, which I did when I became a serious student of inkjet printers, the answer for you is fairly simple--just get a non-chipped Canon using the BCI-3&6 cartridge line. You will probaly do best with a canon ip4000 or ip5000. If you get refill ink...

Hey fotofreak, I had my fantasy on a roll--then you come along and throw the cold water of reality on me. In a more serious vien, can the free enterprise system that says the person who comes up with the better mousetrap will prevail in the market place---Can this be defeated forever in the...