Refillable Carts for PGI-5 and CLI-8 with ARC (review)

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I did a quick search and did not find anything about these so I am posting a review.

After years of refilling BCI-3e and BCI-6 carts, my desktop printer died and I moved to a printer that uses the PGI-5 and CLI-8 carts. I had been using G&G cats (from meritline) because I can get them for about $1-$2 per cart when on sale (for sets). No problem with using them but I was interested in a refillable solution and also in using up the HobbiColos ink that I had on hand.

I purchased the refillable carts here (http://www.printpayless.com/) about 2 weeks ago. I was unsure if they would really work but they were pre-filled and were about $25 so I thought I would give it a try. Please note: I have only used the PGI-5 and CLI-8 cartridges for the ip4300, I have not used any of their other products and cannot speak to their reliability. But so far I am happy with them.

I followed their instructions to a T and all the carts worked except the PGI-5. It was streaked and the printout was unreadable. (Note that all the carts leaked a little bit when I went to install them. This freaked me out a little. Next time I will let them leak out a little before installation into the printer. I believe they were over-filled). I pulled this cart, capped it with the orange cap, taped the air vents with aluminum foil tape and turned it upside down. I emailed them about the problem. They were very quick to respond (within 1-2 days) and asked for photos of the nozzle and the print-outs. I was out-of-town (for a death in the family) so I was a little delayed in getting back to them. In the meantime I was using the CLI-8 color carts (with a G7G black PGI-5) without any difficulty.

When I did get around to responding, I realized that I had already disposed of the print-outs so I re-installed the PGI-5 to get new print-outs to photograph. It worked perfectly! I was very happy with this and also the fact that the chips are ARC (Automatic Resetting Chips). I have plenty of HobbiColors ink to use for refilling and feel that I am set to go! I reported back to the company and their thought was that the PGI-5 had been over filled and that the time spend upside down (after some ink had leaked out) was what resolved the problem.

I have not yet needed to refill these, but I will report back when I do to report any additional problems or concerns.

I had asked if I could transfer the ARC to a Canon cartridge that I had modified for refilling but they did not answer me about that one. I prefer OEM carts if I can get them. I may try this in the future.

If any one else has experience with these carts or the ARC I would be interested in additional feedback. TIA!
 

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Why not just stick with your OEM carts and just get a resetter for both types of carts. I think that would be the best scenario. There is nothing better than original CANON OEM carts when they are adapted for refilling. I suppose you probably can switch your OEM chips with the auto reset ones So lung as the mounting notches are identical.
 

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The best is get a cli8 virgin oem canon cartridge from here
http://www.inkjetreset.com/OEM-Canon-Chips.html to get one of these
5 Empty OEM Canon Cartridges with reset chips: $10 or
5 Empty OEM Canon Cartridges with reset chips + QE Resetter: $24.20

I bought some hp 85 carts from printpayless last year and the catridges were very disaappointing. At times they reset and other times they don't. So I stay away from their carts. Dont know much about their canon carts anyway. Another great site is stratetic and i am surprise most people on this forum dont say much about them.
 

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I forgot to say that Printpayless ink is very good for the Hp printer. I have been using the ink for the past one year.
 

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I did a quick search and did not find anything about these so I am posting a review.
In general, if you do a quick search, and in all cases is advised to use OEM carts, why should the one or two that are not mentioned be good ?

I have a IP4300 ( amongst others ), and refill for 2 years the OEM carts, still using the same, original carts, refilling on average once in 2 weeks. I have bought spare carts in the beginning, but ONLY because I use 4 different printers that all use CLI-8 carts, they are still in the zipp-lock bags, never had to use them. ( actually the IP4500 is a spare one, under the bed....)
Why go for that last penny, if you can play it safe with OEM carts....why try to save 81% if you can save 80% with no risk. ( the numbers are symbolic, don't want to start a discussion about cost :D )
 

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Yeah I have carts like these! My first refill experience and it left me disappointed and frustrated actually. I had the exact same leaking problem as you! After I had filled the carts, they were just leaking. I thought the ink was bad or the sponge in the cart was of poor quality or something. But someone told me here the cause for leaking may be
-overfilling
-not sealing properly on the top side

I think it was the latter, my carts have a coloured plug on the top side. While refilling the cart would leak badly (which made a beautiful black stain on my carpet lol). I didn't know how to solve this and put it in the printer anyway. Your solution was to put the filled carts in a bowl and let them leak until it's done?

On the ARC: I thought it would be very handy but maybe not! I removed the cartridges a couple of times to clean up the excess ink. The cartridges were still leaking ink and the printhead looked like a snot nose with a large drop of ink hanging from the nozzles. But as soon as you remove the cartridges: ZING! Ink level back at 100% while the cart wasn't full anymore. So a resetter seems more practical, unless you never remove the cartridges in between refilling.

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My refill set, bought at Conrad.nl with Pharaoh ink. Rubbish probably but I now know to look for Image Specialists ink ;)
 
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