My new Epson R2000

[pharmacist]

Hi Joe,

How is your experience with the OCP ink set combined with the orange in terms of glossiness, gloss differential and bronzing with the OCP GO covering the print in your Epson R1900 ? If it is good, I would considering buying a set of the OCP ink ?

What about dye inks in the R2000 treated with GO in terms of fade resistance: does it protect the dye molecules from oxidative gasses and UV rays ?

 

[jtoolman]

Gloss differential with the OCP is as Good or as Bad as with IS inks. Though a bit better if you are using the OCP GLOP.
As I mentioned, I had a very nice member of the forum to ship me a litter of OCP GLOP which is MUCH better that the IS equivalent.

I made swabs of EPSON - IS and OCP GLOP on glossy paper and the OEM and OCP look about the same. The IS was dull by comparison.

In liquid form, OCP and OEM GLOP look and smell very close. OEM and OCP GLOP are actually a bit cloudy and not as transparent as IS and others.

When I put together my R2000 / R1900 hybrid set I obtained OCP Y-M-R-C-MK-PK from Rjettek, then I added IS Orange and GLOP. Then I was to change to the GLOP from OCP and things improved a bit more in the gloss deferential and bronzing department.

CONE used to sell DYE ink set ( Thrift Line ) for the R1900 and R2000 which would have been perfect. Unfortunately they no longer seem to carry it. I used it on my PRO 3800 till I ran out of it. Prints that I made on EPSON, Red River and CANON gloss still look as good as when they were printed.

Currently I normally still run any glossy and satin / luster pigment printed prints through my GLOP dedicated EPSON 1400 running on a CIS loaded with OCP GLOP. This process adds a homogenous layer of GLOP over the whole print surface virtually eliminating all gloss diff and bronzing which even pure OEM inks produce.

You need a RIP ( QuadTone RIP ) and a printing custom curve to tell it to lay down equal amounts of GLOP from all 6 channels and how much per channel. But the results are indeed phenomenal!!!

On the R2000 I no longer use 3rd party but use cheap OEM cart sets from EBAY!!! At $16 to $25 I can afford the luxury of OEM on my R2000.
The other two R1900s get the above hybrid ink set. Then I pass any prints that need it through the 1400 / GLOP printer.

Joe

 

[costadinos]

Hi Joe,

How is your experience with the OCP ink set combined with the orange in terms of glossiness, gloss differential and bronzing with the OCP GO covering the print in your Epson R1900 ? If it is good, I would considering buying a set of the OCP ink ?

What about dye inks in the R2000 treated with GO in terms of fade resistance: does it protect the dye molecules from oxidative gasses and UV rays ?

I did use the complete OCP set for the R2000 in the past. The results, even with the GO, were not nearly as good as those from the Inktec without GO in terms of glossiness/differential (apart from that dreaded bronzing of the Inktec on some papers). You'll get superior results by using the available colors from the Inktec set (Black, Magenta, Cyan, Yellow) and you won't even have to think about the GlOp.

As for the orange, I suggest you get a large format OEM cartridge from ebay (those for the 4900/7900/9900). Orange is not consumed that much anyway and you can get these really cheap, especially the 220ml ones of the 4900.

The Gloss Optimizer is designated as a dye formulation in OCP's website, so I seriously doubt it will add to the fade resistance of a dye ink.
I even tried leaving dye prints (OCP) in the sun, after laminating them with a UV resistant laminate, and they faded way faster than unprotected OCP pigment inks...

 

[pharmacist]

Is it normal that printing using wireless is much slower than via USB or network printing ? My printer waits 1 or 2 seconds at the end of each carriage movement, both left and right.

 

[pharmacist]

Just plugged a TCP/IP cable to my router and the slow printing with waiting 1 or 2 seconds at the end of a carriage movement was gone. Printing is now 2-3 times faster without the annoying waiting at the end of the carriage movement. Somehow the wireless network is suboptimal. The test page however shows excellent WIFI signal and speed is 72 Mbps....the TCP/IP wired cable is only 1/3 faster at 100 Mbps. Could such be the cause of my problem ?

 

[3dogs]

Just plugged a TCP/IP cable to my router and the slow printing with waiting 1 or 2 seconds at the end of a carriage movement was gone. Printing is now 2-3 times faster without the annoying waiting at the end of the carriage movement. Somehow the wireless network is suboptimal. The test page however shows excellent WIFI signal and speed is 72 Mbps....the TCP/IP wired cable is only 1/3 faster at 100 Mbps. Could such be the cause of my problem ?

Located in a marginal area I rely on WIFI. Signal strength and speed seem to be poor indicators for printer performance for me. I dont fully understand why, but early morning, when many users are entering, and at school get out time, then again at homework time response is slow. Finally hard wired and gave up messing about trying to determine the actual cause.

 

[WolfgangExler]

I also use an R2000 and two R1900 but I neved thought of mixing red and orange on my own. I use the OCP ink with good results.

 

[pharmacist]

Hi Wolfgang,

I will report back about the results: it could be a disappointment or we can have great results. I did made some test prints with original ink and later will compare them with my home brewed mixture.

 

[websnail]

At Least through the USA distributor - Rjetteck, OCP...

...but I had to replace the Orange with Image Specialists Orange as OCP does not seem to have it. Maybe by special order which would be out of the question in my case.

Hi Joe,

Just on the point re: availability of the OCP inks, I've had other queries about the discontinuation of the inks and it appears it is not at manufacturer level but the distributors own decision. We're getting bits in, as/when required so if you want anything like that, let me know and I'll add you to the list.

@pharmacist : Watching the results of this little experiment with interest... and keeping the fingers crossed too