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New HP M452nw making spots when it gets hot

Discussion in 'Laser Printers -Everything-' started by juntjoo, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Oct 10, 2017
    juntjoo

    juntjoo Printing Apprentice

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    And it gets hot pretty easy. I'm printing artwork/graphics to postcards and it seems black or darker shades trigger this more than anything else but not all the time. Sometimes the spots are concentrated around horizontal lines. But the consistent thing is the heat.

    Isn't this normal and shouldn't the printer know to slow down when this happens or something? It does this "cooling down" thing, as if it knows it needs to but it will still waste prints anyway. Or could I have a dud?
     
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    The Hat

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    Me thinks... :duc Someone is looking for an excuse to dump his laser printer... :eek: :lol:
     
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    juntjoo

    juntjoo Printing Apprentice

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    No excuse needed. I just need to figure out the best decision here. Today is my list day to return and I don't know much about printers especially laser and I don't want to get stuck with a bad printer. And if it's not, I gotta figure out how to stop it from wasting ink and paper with this spots problem

    https://imgur.com/a/Cpion
     
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    berttheghost

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    I suspect that you're trying to do a print shop job with a light duty office printer. I would bet that a low end ink-jet printer would fail just as badly as a low end laser printer. Go back to what @Ink stained Fingers said in another thread. You really need ti consider what it is that you are producing in both qualitative and quantitative terms before choosing your target print technologies.

    I see that your images appear to use over 90 percent toner coverage. That is going to be hard to sustain with either laser or ink-jet. You know that it's expensive in terms of toner. It CAN also be so with ink-jet.

    Look at a color laser printer suitable for low end production use. Look for one that comes with affordable toner. (Is Xerox still around?)
     
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    Thanks. Fortunately I was able to get that spot issue resolved with HP over the phone. They didnt do anything miraculous. We just changed the paper settings from heavy cardstock 220g, which I figured was basically what I was using with this 12+ pt paper, to extra heavy(something, in paraphrasing) 170g, a lower weight setting and it so far has worked. I'm pretty sure because a few prints I forgot to change the settings in word and it started the problem again. Adjusted the settings back, voila! I would have never guessed and still have no idea how this thing works inside. Honestly, after playing with the settings before with only plain and the heaviest settings, I came to the conclusion they were fake, just put there to make me think this product had all kinds of functionality. So apparently they do actually make a difference. Will never understand how a lighter paper setting would work better than heavier. Anyway...

    Beautiful prints tho really, when it works. And I think I'm past that problem there, but now the cost. So its probably comparable to ink and I'm just using a lot. That's good and bad. Good cuz now I can relax and not have to go through changing printers, but bad in that I gotta figure out how to lesson the cost. I'll look more until refilling cartridges, which so far I've found bad reviews of the method, not all, but most, and I'll just choose less color heavy art. Thanks for replying.
     
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    Ink stained Fingers

    Ink stained Fingers Printer Master

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    Refill works great - in lots of cases and creates problems as well in lots of cases - it does not work automatically, it needs some practice to do it right, and you may get into some start up hiccups . But please be assured - you have a range of very experienced and knowledgable members here in this forum to advise and help you out in case of need. There are some printer models which need separate refill cartridges and there are other printer models on which refill runs best with the genuine printer cartridges, so problems already can start here or can be avoided.
     
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    juntjoo

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    Thank you. Great to know. I'll have to get researching on that soon. I'll probably start with a smaller kit than that bulk $240 one just in case it's a complete failure but I'd like to get that setup working and benefit from the savings. If you have any links or suggestions before I start googling, let me know.
     

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