Need an icc profile Canon iP4500/Kirkland paper/Image Specialist ink

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I want to set up a paper profile in Qimage for Kirkland Professional Glossy Inkjet Paper with Canon iP4500 printer using Image Specialists inks.

Can anyone tell me where I might download the .icc file from for this particular paper?

Any help appreciated.

Igor
 

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The chance of you finding that particular profile is very small. If you have plans on trying different papers/inks it would be best to either buy Profile Prism (same source as QImage) or buy a profile. I have Profile Prism and it has done a very good job in making profiles for my ip6000D using Kirkland papers and Hobbicolor inks.

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I have profile prism. Tried making profiles with it, but run in a porblem with my scanner.
It is an old Canon N670U and it doesn't do an acceptable job to make a good profile.
 

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retfeg said:
I want to set up a paper profile in Qimage for Kirkland Professional Glossy Inkjet Paper with Canon iP4500 printer using Image Specialists inks.

Can anyone tell me where I might download the .icc file from for this particular paper?

Any help appreciated.

Igor
If you want I can help you create a custom profile for your printer. Send me an email if you are interested.
 

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You need to have color profiles for all your devices that input/output data.
You need your monitor calibrated and then profiled same is for your printer, then you can use these color profiles to reproduce accurate color on screen and on you printer.

Color management can sound easy or difficult but accurate color depends on device accuracy that measures color (spectrophotometer) and operator skill. For example for some printers you must print test chart than print the same rotated 180 degrees and average the readings to get what printer really prints

I myself have a company and make profiles I work locally now, but if you are interested contact me and I'll see what I can do.

You can search on google for other companies too, but in most the price is high or profile quality is moderate.
Best if you can find local company and get the service done on site because one thing that reduces profiles accuracy is user error in printing the test chart like: wrong printer settings, not testing do all nozzles fire before printing the test, not verifying if every color patch is printed without smearing etc.

Also a local firm could profile your cameras too, even if do not use them in the studio. Because everyone thinks that only in studio camera profiling is worth it – wrong.

For example flower macro photography is a good example. Or anything that needs the depth of field that a correctly profiled camera can record in you photos and save hours on editing them in photoshop.

Contact me for further info if you are interested.
 

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retfeg, if you bought the inks from PrecisionColors then I will make a high quality profile for you with my inks. I am starting a library of profiles that will be available to customers. All profiles will be created with Spyder3print which is the same as PrintfixPro. I also will use a 500 patch with extended grays because I feel that most people who do use profiles also play around with Black & White a bit. All reviews indicate that the 225 patch is sufficient to rival even the OEM profiles so with the 500 patch, we are sure to get good results.

Since the profiles will be shared, I also ask that the cartridges be refilled at least twice before a profile is created. Better yet, that they be flushed and refilled but that may be asking too much.

I think you will be amazed at the results after the custom profile.

Contact me at my email for details on how to go about this.
 

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BTW the profile quality is only ~50% dependant on profile patch quantity. More important factor here is software to calculate profile and pre print tasks / settings. Also don't forget that particular target plays a key role in your print profile quality.

No one wants unstable profiles.

I can offer from 45, 420, 936 patches on single A4 sheet or more patches. The only limit here is money and how much accuracy you require. 936 Patches is sufficient for 6 color photo printers.

Since your Canon iP4500 is a 5 separate ink tank system you should go with 936Patch target on singe A4 Page. I can also average readings form 2 separate targets for extra accuracy. All work is done with X-Rite automated chart reading system so I guarantee quality result.
 

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Here's a comparison using the paper asked for and an MP500 using the same inks, unprofiled and then profiled and printed with Qimage.
The difference is exaggerated by the scanner, and is not easily perceptible by a casual view , but is worthwhile for high quality printing.
Unprofiled.jpg

Profiled.jpg


For many people, the complication is just not worth the hassle if they don't know how to use a profile and get into trouble. For one thing it shows that the ink paper combination from the start is a good one and will give very satisfying results for novices who are likely to get into trouble with ICMs and windows. Additionally there is so much photo software out there that have their serious quirks with ICMs. Qimage is one program that tames that issue dramatically.
 

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mikling said:
I am starting a library of profiles that will be available to customers. All profiles will be created with Spyder3print which is the same as PrintfixPro.
Check the terms of use on your profile generation package (http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=15866#p15866). You usually need a special license for most of these systems to generate "multiple use, non-specific" profiles. That's why I had to stop posting profiles. However, there is nothing to prevent you from requesting a color patch chart from anyone using your inks and e-mailing them their "custom" profile.

When switching inks, I'd recommend purging the carts and making sure that they are completely dry before doing any critical color work.
 

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I have checked its use and the software mfr. even goes so far as to show how remote profiling is best carried out. This was the clincher for the purchase of the package. In its reviews, which the mfr has on its site, they point out that photoclub members can group purchase the package. The particular package is stated to be suitable for use by consultants as well.
"
Datacolor grants to you, and you accept, a personal, nonexclusive,

nontransferable license to distribute profiles in .ICM or .ICC format

("Profiles"), including to customers of your consulting or design

services"

So in acting in the role of a color management consultant, I am free to sell my services if I choose or provide these freely if I choose. I was aware of the limitations of some packages but this package is geared to professionals with even a portable carrying case so that it could be taken to various sites. They even allow the installation on 5 laptops.

What they don't want is the profiles being sold as generic ones and I can see why. So you're right. A requirement for a profile is that the requester must print out a patch chart. Thanks for the workaround suggestion.
 
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