DCP-J132W cannot detect ink

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I recently accepted my canon mp510 with a chip resetter and squeezy bottle inks is at the end of its life. Five years or more and thousands of pages its rather streaky.

I bought a brother DCP-J132W as there seemed to be lots of well reviewed compatible ink cartridges and I did not want to spend on new ink refilling equipment.

I have just run out of cyan for the first time. I inserted my amazon sourced cyan ink cartridge (lots of five star reviews) and it says "cannon detect cyan ink please reinsert slowly". Nothing I try will make it recognize it. I have tried two cartridges and they are both the same.

Reading the amazon reviews a few have started to appear suggesting brother might have changed its system and the compatible chips will not longer work? Does anyone know if this is true, and if so how I might be able to find updated chips.

I suppose just swapping the chip from the old cartridge is too much to hope for? I assume it is now set to say empty.

Anyone have any knowledge? I really hope I haven't just shelled out £50 on a dud printer I won't be able to afford the ink for.

Thankyou for any help.
 

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Grrr. I was impatient and peeled off the original chip and scotch taped it to the compatible cartridge despite logic saying it would not work.

But it did. I am now printing the remainder of my Christmas cards again?

So did I just get lucky? Why would anyone buy a brother chip resetter if they are still getting the ink level optically and the chip just checks the cartridge is genuine?

Its infuriating that I bought my brother a Brother printer a year ago due to their reputation for reliably accepting fake cartridges and his had no chips and has worked just find cheaply with no need for knowledge of chip replacement or refilling. But now this one has chips. I was going to give one to my sister for christmas but if its going to be a hassle to get compatible ink I don't think I can.

Grr. What to do.

Unless anyone has some bright ideas I guess I just have to hope the amazon sellers bring out an updated type of chipped cartridges that work again? Even if swapping the chip continues to work it still means I have to be here to change the ink cartridges which I was trying to avoid.

Oh well.

Any brighter ideas gratefully received.
 

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Yes I'm lucky to have MFC-5895CW no chips on this model. I can recommend to get older brother model without chips, so any ink carts would work. Or to source some refillable carts for your model. You just remove plug, fill them ant that is it.

I use XL type larger than original carts, printer ink door can't be closed but I can just remove plug, add ink. The removing procedure is avoided altogether on my model as only optical recognition is used and I have put black tape on the carts.

For printers with chips this might not work so you need to remove and reset the carts with resetter or use autoreset ones etc.

Ebay shows this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brother-DCP...4649?pt=US_Ink_Cartridges&hash=item2c7e57f539

Same carts from UK, or Germany cost like 35Eur or more, I guess users from those countries never mind the increased cost.
 

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I also bought a DCP-J132w recently.There are chips on the LC-121 cartridges but I don't think they are used by the printer to keep track of ink levels. When I remove a cartridge and reinsert it, the printer asks something like "did you make any changes to <color>?". If I say no, the ink level indicator remains at the same level and if I say yes, the in level indicator is reset to full. Probably, the chips are only used to identify the ink color. I don't know whether they can change this with new firmware so I am reluctant to install firmware updates if there will be any.

I got this cheap little printer as my first Brother printer. Have been a Canon user for many years but am getting sick of the inkflow issues. If this Brother does a good job I might upgrade to one of there models with more functionality.

I got refill ink and a Broluer from www.octopus-office.de. The BroLuer is a small device that creates underpressure in the cartridge so that it sucks the ink right in through the air vent hole. No modifications to the cartridge are required. I did my first refills yesterday and it works pretty well.
 

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The Broluer adapter is sold in china like for 3$ the www.octopus-office.de price seems crazy after you see the true price. But yes the adapter works fine and allows to fill original cartridges !

The made in china refillable carts have one problem that is springs are made not from stainless steel like they should. I wonder what original springs are made from, I don't have any original carts anymore.

Perhaps you can take a original cart out and put a strong neodymium magnet like from hard drive to the part of the cart where the ink port is. If you feel magnet sticking just very little that means original springs are magnetic not stainless.
 

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Update to my post of Dec 15.

The DCP-J132w does use the chip to keep track of ink levels. I refilled the cartridge with no problem and the printer reset the ink level meter to full after I answered a yes to the question whether I changed the cartridge. No problem there.
However, after some more pages and photos the printer decided the cartridge was empty and refused further operation, although there was still ink in the control window of the cartridge.

I bought a chip resetter and reset the chip. Everything works again, now.
 

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Uh oh. So far my chips from the original bundled cartridges are blue tacked onto fake cartridges and it is working fine. They are still pretty full though. I hope they are not suddenly going to hit a counter and say no more printing... I wondered if I had fooled them by repeatedly trying to get the fake chips to be inserted and recognized. The ink meter does say show mostly full. But perhaps it is just a matter of time. I guess I will see...
 

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Oh dear in a foolish weak moment I let it update its firmware after being frustrated that the wifi networking borked every time it went to sleep and woke up. Didn't help either.

Still it still works for the moment. As theorised I may have been fooling myself that it was working anyway... Will find out when cartridges need swapping again too.

Otherwise there is this complicated but faintly hopefully page on downgrading a brothers firmware.

http://pschla.blogspot.ca/2013/08/resurrecting-brother-hl-2250dn-after.html

Much more hopeful for me though is this new amazon listing.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00RKK785I/

A bit pricey at £9.99 for four cartridges but claims they have version 2 chips which work on any brother printer firmware!

It might be a trick but its hopefully. Perhaps if my ink lasts a month or two by then the market might start to flood with v2 compatible chips driving the price back down to a pound a cartridge. Fingers crossed it is a real think and happens.
 

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What do they mean by version 2 chips? Do I understand correctly that Brother updated their firmware and that older aftermarket cartridges don't work with the new firmware?

This wouldn't affect original LC-123 cartridges with orginal chips that were reset, right?
 

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What do they mean by version 2 chips? Do I understand correctly that Brother updated their firmware and that older aftermarket cartridges don't work with the new firmware?

This wouldn't affect original LC-123 cartridges with orginal chips that were reset, right?
It shouldn’t so don’t upgrade your firmware, but these manufactures are playing very nasty lately.. :mad:
 

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