Pro 10 cyan issue

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@palombian.
Good points. People intending to refill must invest a non small initial amount to get the printer running, after OEM carts are exhausted. More so if we take into account an extra printhead. Owning a Pro9500, you have already some of the stuff required. I started from scratch, spending around 300€ : resetter, spare carts, bottom caps with refill plug; 20ml syringes and, of course, ink. After a bit of trouble with some clogs, when I thought that the printhead was damaged (it wasn't ), I purchased also a spare.
Total investment : Pro10s: 590€. Refill things + bulk ink: 300€. Spare printhead : 170€. Total: 1060€.
Certainly it's an expensive hobby. If/when this printer dies, be it tomorrow or in ten years, I'm not gonna buy another Pro model, that's for sure.

P.S.
I thought that in your first post you meant traveling 500km away = 1000km total.
142 x2 km looks more reasonable.. :D
 

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a new PRO-10S at 600
And then money for a resetter, a spare print head, empty cartridges for back up refills. So, even a new Pro 10s is more than its initial cost of 600.

Still, buying used is a risk of shorter longevity that must be weighed against the reward of spending less initially. Seems like you've done your homework. :thumbsup
 

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And then money for a resetter, a spare print head, empty cartridges for back up refills. So, even a new Pro 10s is more than its initial cost of 600.

Still, buying used is a risk of shorter longevity that must be weighed against the reward of spending less initially. Seems like you've done your homework. :thumbsup

The 9500's and PRO-10's are very sturdy machines.
The only thing that can break is the printhead.
Until now I didn't experience the feared damaged logic board ruining a new printhead on these printers (yet).
 

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The only Canon printer that has failed to me was my first Pro9000. All the others were discarded because of printhead demise, but none of them damaged the logic board.
The problem in my first Pro9000 was one of those absurd cases that must be seen to be believed. You know that the chip of each cart makes contact underneath with 4 wires in the carriage. Those wires are tiny solid rods, gold platted. When you change the cartridge you see only a few mm.of each wire, but they’re quite long, running for a certain length inside the carriage body and then connect to flexible insulated cable that goes inside the printer to the main board.
One of these wires in the cyan channel was progressively corroded (by a bit of leaked ink, I’m pretty sure), After failing intermittently for a while, it broke definitively and the cyan cartridge wasn’t recognized anymore by the printer, I tried different cyan carts, thinking of a bad chip, Nope, the led didn’t light at all, not even flashing with error when I tried a different color. No cyan = printer inoperative = printer trashed.
Of course, I didn’t know about the corrosion until, out of curiosity, I proceeded to disassemble the whole carriage and I found out the oxidiced broken wire and a little pool of dried ink. Curiously, none of the three adjacent wires in the cyan channel was damaged at all, even if the ink must have reached them too. I wonder, if the plating it’s gold, why ordinary ink eat the metal so easily. Maybe they’re made of shinny brass but even so..
Anyway, if I had known beforehand where was the trouble, possibly I’d disassembled the carriage more carefully. As I did it when I was already contented to trash the machine, my dismantling was rather rough and destructive, I have to say though that it’s quite difficult to access that part of the printer without the right tools and a very good knowledge of what you’re doing.

Long (very long) story short. Be careful when you replace the cartridges. You see that one or two droplets of spilled ink in the wrong place may ruin an expensive printer.
 

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I lost my first i9950 printer when the purge unit pipe fell off and I couldn’t get a good nozzle check because the head was not been cleaned enough, at that time I wasn’t aware of this back in 2009, I was as stupid and ignorant as most are starting out in home printing with the workings of a purge uint.

To compound my problem, I bought a complete new set of OEM carts and a new print head, but nothing I did could make things better, so I sent the printer out to a service agent by courier, O’ this printer had been working on a CISS for 12 months successfully, so was heavy with waste ink.. (More than 5000 sheets)

By the time the Canon agent got to open the printer it was covered in waste ink and they refused to handle or repair the printer and told me the only alternative was to toss the printer into a skip, so ended my €1000 printer and not to mention all the extra costs incurred to get to that result.. (New carts, print head and courier)

Not to be out done I found a website that helped guys suffering from PPLS (Post Printer Loss Syndrome) and after reading a lot of their threads and posts, I decided to signed up to this site and here I am today, so it was all well worth it in the end.. Haven’t lost a printer since…:)
 

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In 2009 you must have been barely a teenager. :D

My first inkjet was the venerable HP Deskjet, purchased in 1990 or so. Only black cartridge, no color. Built like a tank but awfully expensive. In 2019 money it would cost much more than a Canon Pro1000 nowadays.
 

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I decided to signed up to this site and here I am
Hard to believe I've been here longer than you but it's true, sonny boy. :D
 

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In 2009 you must have been barely a teenager. :D

My first inkjet was the venerable HP Deskjet, purchased in 1990 or so. Only black cartridge, no color. Built like a tank but awfully expensive. In 2019 money it would cost much more than a Canon Pro1000 nowadays.

I paid the HP Deskjet 18.000 BEF, that was 450 EUR then and about 900 EUR today.
 

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In 2009 you must have been barely a teenager. :D My first inkjet was the venerable HP Deskjet, purchased in 1990
:hugs :lol:
In 2009 I wasn’t new to inkjet printers, but was hopeless as to what went on under the hood… Like most I started off with dot matrix and second hand lasers in the early 1980’s and a Commodore computer...:oops:
Hard to believe I've been here longer than you but it's true, sonny boy.
That was probably when you still used a pencil.. :hugs
 

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@palombian.
Good points. People intending to refill must invest a non small initial amount to get the printer running, after OEM carts are exhausted. More so if we take into account an extra printhead. Owning a Pro9500, you have already some of the stuff required. I started from scratch, spending around 300€ : resetter, spare carts, bottom caps with refill plug; 20ml syringes and, of course, ink. After a bit of trouble with some clogs, when I thought that the printhead was damaged (it wasn't ), I purchased also a spare.
Total investment : Pro10s: 590€. Refill things + bulk ink: 300€. Spare printhead : 170€. Total: 1060€.
Certainly it's an expensive hobby. If/when this printer dies, be it tomorrow or in ten years, I'm not gonna buy another Pro model, that's for sure.

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I thought that in your first post you meant traveling 500km away = 1000km total.
142 x2 km looks more reasonable.. :D

If this deal materialises I am at about half what you paid.
With 1250 ml (3th party) ink and the spare head a long way to go.
Not an urgent necessity since my 9500's still work, but at that price I think it is stupid to continue worrying about gloss differences, overprinting with CO is so time consuming I almost never do it.
And the day my last 9500 breaks down I'll have to go out and buy the successor at full price. And will this one still accept refills ?
I will keep a 9500 II for A3 office work and matte papers as long as I have inks for it.
 
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