Pro-10 blend Precision Colors and OEM

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Thank you. It seems that the answer depends on how you define production. I guess most or all manufacturers use subcontractors to some degree.
 

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@websnail

My response could seem a bit rude, sorry for that.

Does Prodinks makes it's pigment inks himself ?
Didn't take it as rude @palombian so no need to apologise.

.. and yes, despite tweeting birdies, ethereal spirits or whatever tipple some folk may have inadvertently been imbibing ;)... The owner of Prodinks is a chemist and formulate his own inks. Case in point being the Pro-10 and the Pro-100 inks.

To my knowledge all the manufacture is done on site but you'd have to put that question to Prodinks directly.
 

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websnail said:
Prodinks DO formulate and manufacture their own inks.

I was aware that Prodinks did their own formulation, testing and colouring of the inks but not that they started from the basic raw materials !

I stand corrected so, Apologies guys .. :oops:
 

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Prodinks is a successor of the previous Sudhaus ink company which was on the market in Germany for quite some time, so it was not a new start up .
 

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Maybe Sudhaus was most famous for the first resetter for Canon, the original REdSETTER (TM)?. It was very much welcomed by owners of PGI-5/CLI-8 printers. Luckily another company bought the rights and probably hired some of the Sudhaus technicians and continued the production of the resetters, when Sudhaus went bankrupt. See this or in "Denglisch" here.
 

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Thanks @websnail for the info on Prodinks.

As much as I like their dye inks (for Canon), as much I have doubts about their pigments.
At least the inks sold for PGI-9.
I suppose the inks were developed for the PRO-10, and who could blame them ?
 

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Thanks @websnail for the info on Prodinks.

As much as I like their dye inks (for Canon), as much I have doubts about their pigments.
At least the inks sold for PGI-9.
I suppose the inks were developed for the PRO-10, and who could blame them ?
Understood... We don't have their PGI-9 inks here but in the interests of full disclosure we're aware that the Photo black can clog up the cartridge sponge over time, requiring a flush and refill to resolve.

It's one of the reasons why we took the approach we did with the Pro-10 inks and it has been a learning curve.
 

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Understood... We don't have their PGI-9 inks here but in the interests of full disclosure we're aware that the Photo black can clog up the cartridge sponge over time, requiring a flush and refill to resolve.

It's one of the reasons why we took the approach we did with the Pro-10 inks and it has been a learning curve.

As you say, an interesting learning curve.
Chapeau (= Hat :)) you do this before marketing the ink.

In respect to Mr Trottmann, the owner of Prodinks as I suppose, he mentions also the long testing/cleaning/etc process with new inks in his blog.
 

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As you say, an interesting learning curve.
Chapeau (= Hat :)) you do this before marketing the ink.
One day you want to buy a few rounds and I'll tell you the story of the Pro-10 inks...
It's always been a work in progress and while it has been a loss making enterprise in the main, it has taught me a HUGE amount about custom development, compatibility, and a whole heap of other messes ;)

In respect to Mr Trottmann, the owner of Prodinks as I suppose, he mentions also the long testing/cleaning/etc process with new inks in his blog.
The Pro-10 was a unique experience for all concerned... It was a niche product with very low return potential and very much a "we'll do what we can"... I wouldn't read too much into any other product development.
 
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