Canon to Epson?

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Just because you get an end of life message to say that you need a new print head on your Canon printer (End of life) does not mean that the print head is damaged or dead, far from it.

In fact if you purchase a new head and install and use it, then later if you reinstall the alleged dead head again it will work just like it did before the expired warning, I have done this with a head that had so called expired and is still working today..
 

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It appears that epson is becoming a Canon in disguise, and I may make that switch as my printers need replacing. OMG I do enjoy the Queen's english. LOL or is it the King's english
 

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oh, there are some other failure modes as well on Canon printers, you get some error code about the printhead, it stops working, you replace the printhead with a new one, and that one gets killed immediately and shows the same error code , which happens when some driver circuitry on the motherboard is gone. You wouldn't be able to tell that beforehand
 

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Well I am going dutch...my native language, so my English is Dunglish :lol:.
And good for you and all the millions of English as a second language speakers that show up on the intertubes! I have huge regards for the Dutch people which I won't star a political firestorm on this printer forum!
 

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Well I am going dutch...my native language, so my English is Dunglish :lol:.

I am always impressed by the fact that most citizens of Continental Europe seem to be fluent in at least two European languages, and passably competent in a couple or so more.

I am a unilingual Anglo living in Canada, which is nominally bilingual. Yet we spend an inordinate amount of time squabbling amongst ourselves about trivial language issues. We could probably learn something from the European example.

RS
 

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It appears that epson is becoming a Canon in disguise, and I may make that switch as my printers need replacing. OMG I do enjoy the Queen's english. LOL or is it the King's english
We've got a king now, he likes beer.
On topic: An Epson is not much like a Canon. The Epson is equipped with a cold piezo print head, while the Canon is more or less a steam printer. The Epson print head never wears out, it outlives the printer.
To me the Epson technique is superior. But The Epson has disadvantages as well. After you have installed an Epson printer you will discover new problems, different from the ones you met with Canon.
 

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Damn you Brother why you don't make 6 ink dye photo printers, to me the Brother printhead is superior to EPSON. Brother printers are like EPSON controlled via software so it would be possible to use like 2 brother printheads having 8 inks and longer print bed (with timing strip from wideformat printer).

This is all hackable I think.
 
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We've got a king now, he likes beer.
On topic: An Epson is not much like a Canon. The Epson is equipped with a cold piezo print head, while the Canon is more or less a steam printer. The Epson print head never wears out, it outlives the printer.
To me the Epson technique is superior. But The Epson has disadvantages as well. After you have installed an Epson printer you will discover new problems, different from the ones you met with Canon.
You are indeed correct about finding new problems. Frankly, I don't care about the technology used to spit the ink out unless it impacts either the print or me somehow. I think calling the very successful bubble jet technology used by the millions across many brands is not "Just a steam printer." At all.

There are a lot of issues with the piezo method of spitting ink, especially with pigment inks. Easily clogged, hard to unclog. And when you give up and need to replace the head............oops. Not the two minute Canon job.

Yeah, I'm biased. I've been a Canon user since about 1998. Bought an Epson around 2000, couldn't sell it fast enough. Ink sucker, noisy, the head banging at the ends of travel. Maybe they are better today, but I've no reason to learn a whole new brand and system. And oh, I bought an Epson scanner to do some 4x5 negatives. I did them and then sold it. Their software interface just wasn't intuitive to me and there were some real "what where they thinking?" issues.
 

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it's a discussion like between fans of Canon or Nikon cameras - mine is better etc. I think about everybody is biased in this respect, based on his good or bad experience. I can agree with ' I don't care about the technology used to spit the ink out unless it impacts either the print or me somehow. ' And I don't see those issues with piezo heads, lots of those problems relate to refill problems, ink flow, bad fitting cartridges, air in the ink channels, etc and not to the printhead itself.
I was using Canon printers since the days of the BJC7000 etc, S750, I560,865, IP4xxx etc, and I lost about 10 or more of them with burning heads or burning motherboards , all at the end with a fatal failure, but I didn't loose any of the Epsons with a similar problem. The print quality of Canon is not questioned, the bubble printing principle makes the printhead a consumable item, nothing wrong with that as long it doesn't kill the printer itself, HP uses a circuit design where this does not happen, and you continue with the next printhead if needed. And when it comes to clogging with pigment ink, Canon Pro users complain as much about that as Epson users. ' but I've no reason to learn a whole new brand and system.' I'll stay with Epson printers for the time being
 

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@Ink stained Fingers, Boy have you got it all wrong, you’ve had some terrible experiences while using the Canon printers for which I sympathise but reading what you’ve said most of the problems sounds like all of your own making.

I’ve used several makes of printers, including Epson and HP but somehow I found Canon were much more forgivable and easier to use, so I choose to switch to Canon for that very reason.

But to say you choose Epson over Canon when you’ve killed a half dozen or so printers is an admittance of your own failure to work with any Canon printer properly, I work solely with Canon printers but I don’t knock Epson or HP because I didn’t like the way the worked.

I also don’t know where your coming from saying that Canon Pro users complain as much as Epson users regarding head clogs in their pigment ink printers, that is a complete 100% falsehood because if you cared to get your head out of… the sand you might even educate yourself on the working of all inkjet printers regardless of brand name..
 
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