Replacing cartridge chips for Epson Pro 3800

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Does it make sense to replace chips for the Epson 3800, that can not be reset, by new chips?
Perhaps such new chip can be reset?

Such chips are being offered at a price of $3,5 each by Balson Technology Co.(www.toner-chip.com/) Sales guy is Fred at Fred <balson5@toner-chip.com>
 

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What makes you think they can not be reset? I sent you and posted a link to the new resetter that I've already tested on mine carts.

Besides they seem to only sell TONER cart chips. Not InkJet cart chips.
Did I miss something?

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Joe:
With my mail to you of Aug 14 I did show you a resetter that I planned buying. You then responded with:
"Yes. That's the one. I can not guarantee that it will work 100% as mine does. The only way is to try."
That is what I did:
I purchased this resetter and could reset 6 carts, but not the LK, LLK, LM, as I told you in my e-mail to you of August 28
I wasn't ware that Balson Technologies only supplies toner-chips!
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Because that IS / WAS the one I have that does work. BUT has been reported to not reset LM LK and LLK. On some user's carts. I then had those mailed to me and I reset them successfully with my identical ( Visually ) resetter.

But then I provided the group with a NEW link to a NEW resetter. I stated that I could not say that that one would work as I did not have one. SO I spent $40, purchased one and tested it on the LM LK and LLK carts and it reset them successfully.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181401461962?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

So why can I reset carts that others can not reset with supposedly the same resetter?
The only answer has to be that the code of the resetter they had has been changed some how.

The person who informed me of the resetter from the above link has stated that he can now reset all his carts.

But then again I seem to be able to reset all the carts I have plus all the carts that other can not seem to be able to reset. Maybe the new resetter will solve that.

The Chinese company has done definitely done something to that resetter and not told anyone! That is very unscrupulous!!!

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@jtoolman could you not have considered that Epson software may also have contributed in some small way to this occurrence, unusual or not ?
 

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The carts LM LK and LLK that the other folks could not be reset with the same resetter I purchased.

I received those carts by mail and was able to reset them with my resetter.
My resetter was ordered about 6 months before I developed the modification and made the videos. Two to three folks then ordered the "SAME" resetter from the same link from Alibaba and they could not reset LM LK and LLK.

Their resetter ( from three separate people ) refused to reset them. Red light flash followed by solid red light. No reset.
When inserted into their printers as well as my printers they read as almost empty so no reset took place.
I then was able to reset them. Red light flash followed by solid green.
So you are saying that their 3800s software is different / newer than mine?

Regardless of whether it is or not, all I can say is that those who ordered the "NEWER" resetter from the EBAY link I posted earlier can now indeed reset those three previously problematic color chips.

So what is the problem?
Apparently all they have to do is order that same resetter from that link ASAP before something else happens.

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What I meant was your resetter worked six months ago and you’ve had no upgrades to your Epson, but then they also bought the same resetter as you all be it at a later date but it didn’t work for them why ?

Now they too have purchased the latest newer resetter which works, now this newer resetter may have had an upgrade done to it since the one you'd got previously, that might indicate that Epson has slipped in an upgrade somewhere along the way unknown to the other owners !
 

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What I think you are missing is that the those three colors simply could not be reset by the older resetter. They got. They would get a Red flash followed by Solid Red which means No Reset.
The same carts with my resetter or the newer one and I get flashing Red followed by solid Green. Nothing to do with the printer. And even if it does, they are now reset and working perfectly on their printers.

They can use the new resetter now to reset ALL colors without a problem. Whatever was going on in the past it's of no consequence now.
Use the new resetter and there will be no problems, at least for now.

Once you have a good working set of carts you are set. It has nothing to do with the printer. When I installed those two printers, I used EPSON's latest drivers.

I bet you that if a newer driver exists it will have no bearing on whether my printers continue to accept my carts or anyone else's carts.

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OK @jtoolman I can accept that but there has to be something doing it, are you sure the EPROM chip can’t recode some of these cartridge chips ?
The Chinese manufactures had to update their latest resetter, why ? :idunno
 

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That would be the only answer. Except that I can get carts from these folks and easily reset them with any of my two resetters. Regardless of what the other guys printer's EPROM chip may have done.

My experience has been that once I get a set of carts that work, I never have any problems.
The new reseter does not have a self aligning frame for the carts and you have align the resetter's pins to the chip contacts by eye. Other than that it works fine. It also resets the maintenance tanks.
But it takes a trick.
You need two carts. You reset one but you do not yet reinsert it.
You insert another cart. It will read that chip and remember the code for that chip.
Now you can install the just resetted one and it will read it as being empty and ready to use.

If you do not have a second MC you have to first reset it.
Remove the chip and replace it with a color cart chip.
Reinsert and it will of course reject it.
Now you remove the cart again and reattach the correct and reset chip and you are good to go.

Joe
 
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